
Episode #14
Violence, Memory, and Community Murals: Artist Claudia Bernardi on Art Against Brutality
Painting the Unspeakable: Art, War, and Remembering with Claudia Bernardi I sit down with artist Claudia Bernardi to talk about her new book, Art Against Brutality: Community and Collaborative Art Projects with Survivors of Political Violence . Claudia lived through the military dictatorship in Argentina. In 1992, she was asked to work as a cartographer with the Argentine Forensic Anthropology Team on the exhumation of the site of the El Mozoté massacre in El Salvador — an experience that led her to found Walls of Hope, a community mural project working alongside survivors of war, sexual violence, and displacement. We talk about memory, testimony, and what happens when survivors of unspeakable violence pick up a paintbrush for the first time. This is a conversation about murals, human rights, collective memory, and the people who refuse to let their stories disappear. Episode Highlights (Timestamps) 00:54 — Introducing Claudia Bernardi and her background as an installation artist, painter, and printmaker 01:02 — The military dictatorship in Argentina and the 30,000 desaparecidos 01:25 — How the Argentine Forensic Anthropology Team began searching for the disappeared 05:23 — What Art Against Brutality is and where the murals were created 06:07 — Who was Rufina Amaya Marquez, the sole survivor of the El Mozoté massacre 09:28 — Claudia's role as cartographer during the El Mozoté exhumation 11:54 — The moment the idea for working with art and children took shape at the exhumation site 19:11 — Founding Walls of Hope and building the "Perquin model" 27:34 — What it means to remember, and what survivors choose to put on the wall 29:38 — The women of Huehuetenango and painting a mural about surviving sexual violence 35:55 — Returning to Argentina to paint a mural at ESMA, the country's largest former detention and extermination center 44:23 — Painting murals with incarcerated, unaccompanied migrant youth in the U.S. criminal justice system 53:02 — A devastating conversation with one young participant about disappearance and being forgotten 1:02:11 — Where to find the book and learn more about Walls of Hope Where to order the book Art Against Brutality Learn more about Walls of Hope Art Heals All Wounds website Support the show






