
Episode #14
You Can't Crucify Yourself w/ Lyle Phillips
Lyle Phillips shares his journey from a farming town of 600 in Kentucky to rescuing children from trafficking in India, and finally to becoming what he calls the most reluctant church planter you'll ever meet, at Legacy in East Nashville. He explains why he still believes in the Western church even as culture seeps into it, how he uses tools like AI without fear, and why church hurt is so often unforgiveness toward a person rather than a problem with the church itself. Together with Jesse, Lyle explores the emerging three-stream wineskin of word and Spirit, plundering the Egyptians by staying humble enough to learn from anyone, and going to the church you're called to rather than the one you're merely comfortable in.

