Assurance Unknown

Assurance Unknown, a podcast about all the untold stories in the high assurance IT product security evaluation and certification industry. This is a podcast hosted by Kai-Fan Chang, who worked in IT product security evaluation and certification for about 20 years. I will interview the people who are in my view a big part of my personal journey in this industry and also people who helped shaping this industry. There is no way to predict or plan the future without knowing the past. And I am curious about all the unknown stories, to me, along the way. I am welcoming you to join my journey to discover how the industry has come to be. Hopefully to find a way to go forward together!

Assurance Unknown is a general podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 4 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Assurance Unkown with Wouter Slegers part 2

  Aug 14, 202652 minS1

  Welcome to the second part of my conversation with Wouter. This is the first time I publish two episodes within a month time. I just do not want to separate the two episodes for two long and also I truly am inspired from the discussion in this second part. We touched upon the difficulties and the future of certification. What would be required to cover all the devices that need to comply to regulations such as CRA. Finally we talked about AI and how it is and could be applied in the security evaluation and certification industry. It is really fun and I really appreciate Wouter's openness and sharing. As usual, I extended some thinking in the blog post below on the interesting topics discussed. Please feel free to share your thoughts, comments, and questions. And any advice or recommendation on the content would be welcome! Substack blogpost: https://certcle.substack.com/p/future ...

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  Assurance Unknown with Kai-Fan Chang and Wouter Slegers part 1

  Jul 30, 202658 min

  In this episode of Assurance Unknown I talked with Wouter Slegers, founder and CEO of TrustCB, about his career and the set up of the Dutch scheme, alternative approach, and SESIP. This is only the first part of the conversation. It is a bit technical, but definitely a master class in security evaluation and certification. I have a blog post on the influence of culture on security evaluation and certification industry. You can find it here: https://open.substack.com/pub/certcle/p/culture-and-certification?r=3smzvo&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true Also, this podcast is also published in audio format on Apple podcast and Spotify. Look it up by typing the title "Assurance Unknown". Hope you enjoy the episode and don't forget to like and subscribe so you will not miss part 2 of my conversation with Wouter, which will be published outside of normal publishing cycle. Please also feel free to leave your comments or ask your questions!

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  Assurance Unknown with Kai-Fan Chang and Wouter Slegers part 1

  Jul 30, 202658 minS0

  <p>In this episode of Assurance Unknown I talked with Wouter Slegers, founder and CEO of TrustCB, about his career and the set up of the Dutch scheme, alternative approach, and SESIP. This is only the first part of the conversation. It is a bit technical, but definitely a master class in security evaluation and certification. I have a blog post on the influence of culture on security evaluation and certification industry. You can find it here: https://open.substack.com/pub/certcle/p/culture-and-certification?r=3smzvo&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true<br /><br />Also, this podcast...

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  Assurance Unknown with Kai-Fan Chang, Chuankai Gao & Hungwei Chen

  Jun 26, 20261h 18mS0

  <p>In this episode I had a discussion in a tea house with Dr. Gao from the IT security department in Institute of Information Industry in Taiwan and Hungwei Chen previously from Winbond. They shared their stories with high assurance security evaluation and the difficulties in promoting security evaluation in an ecosystem. Security is generally considered a cost for the developer and I have yet to see a developer to do security evaluation/certification by freewill when it’s not necessary. As a country or a company you need to make the conscious choice if security is important for your ex...

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  Assurance Unknown with Kai-Fan Chang, Chuankai Gao & Hungwei Chen

  Jun 26, 20261h 18m

  In this episode I had a discussion in a tea house with Dr. Gao from the IT security department in Institute of Information Industry in Taiwan and Hungwei Chen previously from Winbond. They shared their stories with high assurance security evaluation and the difficulties in promoting security evaluation in an ecosystem. Security is generally considered a cost for the developer and I have yet to see a developer to do security evaluation/certification by freewill when it’s not necessary. As a country or a company you need to make the conscious choice if security is important for your existence on the long run and if investment is needed or worth it. While most people will say that security is important, most companies do not want to invest because it hurts the short term results (costs) and makes the price of the product higher (competitiveness). This episode is purely in Chinese and I know it will make people who only listen to the podcast and do not speak Chinese quite difficult. However, it is really important that people who I interview to feel comfortable to speak out their mind freely and precisely. On the YouTube version you are able to find the subtitles in different languages. Hope you gain some new insights from the conversation. As usual, there is a blog associated with this episode and you can find it here: https://certcle.substack.com/p/the-economy-of-security-certification?r=3smzvo My website: www.certcle.com Instagram: @certcle

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