Before We Get There

Before We Get There is a podcast about resilience, pivots, and the unfinished paths we all walk. Host Nicholas Braman sits down with creatives, athletes, chefs, entrepreneurs, and others from Singapore and across Asia to surface the moments that reshape them, what stops working, what becomes clearer, and what keeps them moving forward before anything feels settled. New episodes every other Thursday. Learn more at https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast.

Before We Get There is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 53 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Unknown Host hosts Before We Get There, a business show with 53 episodes published.

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  Episode #53

  51. What Is This Behavior with Lav Chloe

  Sep 16, 202645 min

  In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews Lav Chloe, a Malaysian content creator known for her accents and impressions. She went viral in December last year from a one-take video she made for her friends and meant to delete. It passed a million views, then kept climbing, and it became her whole career. They talk about the line she walks doing accents without mocking anyone, and why she so often ends up defending people in her own comments. She makes the case that Malaysian humor comes from something heavier, generations of hardship turned into a way of laughing at pain. They also get into being wired differently and diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, why she resists being called an influencer, and where she wants to take all of this next. Lav's links: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sorude_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sorude_ Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast 00:00 Podcast and Lav intro 04:20 Respectful Impressions 06:25 Handling Haters 10:07 Privacy And Boundaries 16:10 ADHD Diagnosis Journey 21:58 Culture And Awareness 26:08 Neurodivergence As Magic 28:11 Malaysian Humor Roots 36:49 Authenticity Over Performance 43:15 Five Year Definition Of Success 44:21 Where To Find Lav

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  Episode #52

  50. Still Fighting with Angela Lee

  Sep 2, 202645 min

  Angela Lee was a six-time MMA world champion. She retired in 2023, not long after losing her sister Victoria. When she stopped fighting, she started talking about mental health, about Victoria, about who she was underneath the fighter. Not everyone around her was ready for that. She felt like a black sheep, with just her husband and daughter supporting her. What pulled her through was learning to advocate for herself, something she says she could only do at first by treating it the way she'd stand up for the people she loves. She built her nonprofit, Fight Story, out of the same instinct, and slowly found new people, at the gym and around the work, who became a new family. This conversation is about who she is now, what she's still fighting for, and much more. Angela's links: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/angelaleemma/ Fight Story: https://fightstory.org/ United We Rise Book: https://a.co/d/0g481yuk Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast 00:00 Welcoming Angela Lee Back To Singapore 05:15 Identity Crisis After Fighting 11:49 Why She Retired 13:43 Burnout And Mental Health 22:46 Losing Victoria And Starting Fight Story 27:41 Becoming The Black Sheep 33:08 Building A New Tribe 36:27 Writing United We Rise 42:31 Five-Year Vision 44:43 Closing

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  Episode #51

  49. They Called Me Xiao Mei with Amber Tan

  Aug 19, 202644 min

  In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman interviews Amber Tan, who left her Singapore Airlines cabin crew career to set up a wholesale fish business at Jurong Fishery Port for her then-partner. Funding the venture with her own savings, she lost about $170K, discovered repeated lies and affairs, and ultimately ended the relationship after a friend warned what staying would model for her daughter. When her ex left debts and an incoming fish shipment under a company in her name, Amber took over, put in a final $10K, let a worker go, and learned the trade hands-on at 3:00 AM, breaking even by February. She discusses navigating a male-dominated port, code-switching between "SQ mode" and wet-market life, expanding via door-to-door delivery and a wet market partnership, and her hope to keep wet markets from dying. Amber's links: Business Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paogeseafood/ Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/valeisky/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/pao-ge-seafood Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast 00:00 Meet Amber Tan 03:17 Starting the Fish Company 05:18 Betrayal and Taking Over 09:16 Life at the Fishery Port 11:44 Last Straw and Daughter 16:25 Winning Over the Uncles 22:00 Motherhood Changes Everything 27:34 SQ Identity And Port Life 31:33 Tomboy To Cabin Crew 37:11 Saving Wet Market Culture 42:53 Where To Follow And Farewell

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  Episode #47

  45. Just Talk Only with Juliana Heng

  Jun 24, 202644 min

  Host Nicholas Braman interviews Juliana Heng, who left a career in accounting in Malaysia to pursue stand-up comedy and, through performing, better understand their identity. Juliana describes being drawn to comedians’ unfiltered expressiveness, struggling and bombing early on, and using comedy as an escape from an unbearable corporate job before briefly living on savings and taking odd jobs like driving Grab and deliveries. They explain how it took about a year to find their footing by choosing the right topics and learning joke structure, but also how difficult it is to make a living from stand-up. Juliana shares discovering they are autistic after the label was raised at work, later confirming it with professionals, and how naming autism on stage improved audience connection. They discuss masking, being queer and neurodivergent, finding community at Edinburgh Fringe, leaving an emotionally unsafe family home, and defining success as being happy, healthy, and well-loved. Juliana's links: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mxjulianaheng/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mxjulianaheng Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast 00:00 Introducing Juliana Heng 03:36 Escaping Accounting Life 08:28 Quitting Job And Money Reality 12:16 Realizing Autism Through Comedy 16:20 Naming It And Empowerment 22:26 Labels Without Limits 24:33 Edinburgh Fringe Audience Magnet 32:09 Family Pressure And Control 40:35 Redefining Success Checklist 43:14 Where To Follow And Farewell

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  Episode #46

  44. Picking Up Strangers with Michelle Lee

  Jun 10, 202642 min

  In this episode, Nicholas Braman sits down with Michelle Lee, who did what most people only talk about: she planned her retirement at 18, hit her number in her early 30s, and walked away from a top career in financial advisory. But the story isn't the money. It's what came after, the year she sat on her resignation letter, the identity crisis of no longer being "the finance person," and the strange emptiness of a finish line that felt like any other day. Now a part-time private hire driver with no financial reason to work, Michelle shares why she chose the driver's seat over the corner office: the passengers who open up to a stranger, the friendships she burned during her years in survival mode, and the lesson her father's death at 42 taught her about time. It is a conversation about what money can and cannot buy, and learning to spend the wealth you spent your whole life building. 00:00 Introduction to Michelle Lee? 02:39 Early Retirement Plan 07:13 Empty Finish Line 11:07 Freedom Without Agenda 15:30 Rider Conversations 20:45 Sharing the Journey Online 25:44 Regrets And Priorities 30:28 Childhood Money Mindset 36:23 Enjoying Wealth Without Guilt 39:25 Mortality And Motivation 41:15 Where To Follow And Wrap

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