Between the Briefs

Welcome to Between the Briefs, a podcast by Steno. We share practical tips and expert insights on the pre-trial process, court reporting, and legal technology, to keep you updated on how technology is revolutionizing the litigation process and the wider legal sector.

Between the Briefs is a technology podcast hosted by Steno, with 77 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Steno hosts Between the Briefs, a technology show with 77 episodes published.

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  Episode #77

  The Email That Ruined a $10M Lawsuit ft. Kat Mateo

  Aug 14, 202647 minS2

  What lawyers don’t realize is that most litigation problems start long before anyone files a lawsuit. In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Kat Mateo, Counsel of Litigation at Olshan Fromm Wolosky LLP, to talk about the client decisions that make cases harder. Kat breaks down the fatal decisions clients make before entering court, why attorneys must review deals early and how an emotional email turns into Exhibit A. She also shares her story as a first-generation immigrant, explaining why cases are won on paper and how AI impacts litigation strategy.

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  Episode #76

  Where Are the Legal Leaders We Need? ft. Nicole Lester Arrindell

  Aug 7, 202645 minS2

  Being a great lawyer has less to do with knowing the law and A LOT more to do with listening, building trust, and managing people and figuring out how to move work forward without becoming the “department of no.” In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Nicole Lester Arrindell, Head of State Regulatory and Legislative Affairs and Associate General Counsel at Equitable, to talk about servant leadership, public service, career purpose and the real-world skills lawyers need but are not always taught. Nicole shares how her work across legal aid, government, in-house counsel, teaching, and bar leadership shaped her core belief: leadership is not a title; it is a daily practice.

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  Episode #75

  Legal Tech Doesn’t Need More “Lamborghinis” ft. Kara Peterson and Richard DiBona

  Jul 31, 202647 minS2

  How do we close the justice gap without flooding courts with unreliable AI outputs? In this episode of Between the Briefs, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Kara Peterson and Richard DiBona, co-founders of Descrybe. They discuss why Descrybe pivoted from pro se consumers to supporting legal aid attorneys, how issue-level citation analysis prevents legal hallucinations, and why powerful legal tech shouldn't require BigLaw enterprise pricing.

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  Episode #74

  Is Not Using AI a Malpractice Risk? ft. Shannon Boettjer

  Jul 24, 202650 minS2

  Has AI adoption in law already reached the point of questioning: how do we use it without creating tomorrow’s litigation risk? In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Shannon Boettjer, partner at Jaspan Schlesinger Narendran LLP, to unpack what responsible AI governance actually looks like for lawyers and law firms. Shannon breaks down why AI is no longer just one tool but an entire kitchen of systems, why hallucinations should be treated like common side effects and why firms need AI fluency, not just basic literacy, if they want to use these tools defensibly.

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  Episode #73

  Will AI Lower Legal Costs? Tim Fox Explains the Twist

  Jul 16, 202650 minS2

  AI’s got everyone thinking legal work will become cheaper, eventually. But is that belief grounded in reality? Tim Fox is not so sure. In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Tim, Chief Data and AI Officer at Ogletree Deakins, to unpack what AI adoption actually looks like inside a major law firm. Tim breaks down why legal AI adoption is notoriously difficult, the hidden maintenance costs of building tools in-house and why the real value lies in superior work quality rather than simple cost cuts.

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