Between the Seams with Stitch

Go Between The Seams with the founders, leaders, builders and investors behind South Africa’s most ambitious businesses and those behind some of the global companies shaping the future.We dive into how these businesses were built from the ground up, how they’re navigating shifting consumer demands, and what real innovation looks like in South Africa, and beyond.

Between the Seams with Stitch is a business podcast hosted by Stitch Money, with 6 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Stitch Money hosts Between the Seams with Stitch, a business show with 6 episodes published.

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  Episode #6

  Architecting the future of payment processing | Israel Skosana, PayInc

  Jul 29, 202632 minS1

  In this episode of Between the Seams , Junaid Dadan , President & Co-Founder at Stitch, speaks with Israel Skosana , Chief Product and Scheme Officer at PAYINC . They explore the evolution of South Africa's national payments landscape, the transition from BankservAfrica to PayInc with 50% ownership from the South African Reserve Bank (SARB), and the future of instant account-based payments like PayShap. The conversation covers key opportunities in modernizing retail payments, solving fragmentation through standardized QR codes, driving financial inclusion, combating fraud through ecosystem collaboration, and the long-term vision for seamless, low-cost digital payments across South Africa by 2030.

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  Episode #5

  The builder's manual | Charley Ma, Pathlight Ventures

  Jul 14, 202649 minS1

  In this episode of Between the Seams , Stitch CEO Kiaan Pillay is joined by Charley Ma, Co-founder and General Partner at Pathlight Ventures . Having occupied early, pivotal roles at globally successful startups including Plaid, Ramp, and Alloy , Charley has had a front-row seat to the creation of the modern fintech stack. They strip back the veneer of "startup success" to discuss the brutal realities of building durable tech businesses. Charley breaks down why the "Second-Mover Advantage" in infrastructure is real, the fallacy of high-level thought leadership without shipping, and how the "AI Surface Layer" is about to disintermediate every merchant who lacks a 1:1 data mapping of their customers. This episode offers a deep dive into the gritty execution required to move a product from a technical curiosity into a massive, scalable piece of financial infrastructure.

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  Episode #4

  What’s next in modern healthcare | Aliyah Allie, X, Bigly Labs

  Jul 1, 202647 minS1

  <p>In this episode of Between the Seams, Stitch President Junaid Dadan sits down with Aliyah Allie, Managing Director of X, Bigly Labs (Dis-Chem Group’s innovation hub), to discuss the high-stakes digital transformation of one of South Africa’s most essential retail organizations.</p><p>Aliyah pulls back the curtain on how Dis-Chem is tackling the country’s massive healthcare accessibility gap. They move beyond the protein powder aisles to dissect the “spoeg en plak” reality of maintaining 40-year-old legacy systems while building the health center of the future. Aliyah shares deep insights into their unique nurse-led clinic model, the intric...

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  Episode #4

  What’s next in modern healthcare | Aliyah Allie, X, Bigly Labs

  Jul 1, 202647 minS1

  In this episode of Between the Seams , Stitch President Junaid Dadan sits down with Aliyah Allie, Managing Director of X, Bigly Labs (Dis-Chem Group’s innovation hub) , to discuss the high-stakes digital transformation of one of South Africa’s most essential retail organizations. Aliyah pulls back the curtain on how Dis-Chem is tackling the country’s massive healthcare accessibility gap. They move beyond the protein powder aisles to dissect the “ spoeg en plak” reality of maintaining 40-year-old legacy systems while building the health center of the future. Aliyah shares deep insights into their unique nurse-led clinic model, the intricate challenge of rebuilding pharmacy software that dates back to the seventies, and why purposeful friction—or "healthy conflict"—between innovation hubs and the mothership is the only way to move at the speed of customer expectation. From the ethics of Agentic AI in clinical settings to the simple power of "dog-fooding", this conversation speaks to the importance of modernizing complex, highly regulated enterprise infrastructure without losing sight of the human on the other side of the counter.

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  Episode #3

  Re-engineering South Africa's payment system | Arif Ismail, SARB

  Jun 17, 202644 minS1

  <p>South Africa has had real-time payment infrastructure since 2006. Brazil's Pix launched in 2020 and already does 33 transactions per capita per month. South Africa's PayShap is at one. In this episode of Between the Seams, Stitch President and Co-founder Junaid Dadan sits down with Arif Ismail, Head of the National Payment System Department (NPSD) at the South African Reserve Bank, to get into why that gap exists and what's being done to close it.</p><p>Arif has built and overseen South African payments from almost every vantage point: loading ATMs and fixing point-of-sale terminals in the early 2000s, building foundational...

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