Beyond the Chart: Exploring the AI Frontier for Oncology

Beyond the Chart examines the current state of cancer care delivery and AI technology's role in oncology centers today and in a promising future. Each episode features detailed conversations with oncology leaders and clinicians, health tech innovators, and entrepreneurs driving change at the intersection of AI and oncology. Learn how intelligent tools transform clinical workflows, decision-making, and the patient experience. Tune in for out-of-the-box thinking, real-world outcomes, and a front-row seat to the future of oncology.

Beyond the Chart: Exploring the AI Frontier for Oncology is a health podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 25 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Episode #25

  The Real Reasons Why Some Physicians Don’t Trust AI with Dr. Kimberly Ku (Part 2)

  Aug 12, 202629 min

  Why do some physicians embrace AI while others still resist it? In this episode, we speak with Dr. Kimberly Ku - medical oncologist, researcher, advocate for value-based care, podcast host, and film producer. In this second part of our conversation, we shift from patient communication to one of healthcare's biggest challenges today: AI adoption. Dr. Ku draws on lessons from tactical empathy and negotiation to explain why resistance to AI is often rooted in fear rather than the technology itself. We explore what it really takes to earn clinicians' trust, why community practices will play a huge role in determining AI's future, and how thoughtful implementation can reduce the administrative burden for clinicians while potentially improving outcomes. If you’re on the fence when it comes to AI adoption in healthcare, or you simply want to know more about where the narrative around AI in oncology stands today, this is for you. Covered in this episode: Where AI adoption in healthcare stands today. Why community practices are shaping the future of AI. The biggest barriers preventing clinicians from adopting new technology. How to reframe resistance to AI through trust and communication. The skills physicians will need in an AI future. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE Val-You Based Care podcast - https://val-you-based-care.captivate.fm/ DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

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  Episode #24

  What Hostage Negotiation Tactics Can Teach Us About Bedside Manner with Dr. Kimberly Ku (Part 1)

  Jul 29, 202636 min

  What could hostage negotiations teach oncologists about patient care? In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Kimberly Ku - medical oncologist, researcher, advocate for value-based care, podcast host, and film producer. After years of following a more traditional pathway, Kim began questioning whether medicine was truly helping clinicians connect with the patient sitting in front of them. That led her outside healthcare and to the work of former FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss. We explore how Dr. Ku has adapted Chris’ principles of tactical empathy to patient care, and why the words clinicians choose (and even the ones they don’t say outloud) can shape trust and understanding within some of the most difficult conversations in oncology. If you're looking to strengthen patient relationships and navigate difficult conversations with confidence and empathy, this episode offers techniques you can start using today. Covered in this episode: How to use tactical empathy to strengthen patient relationships. Three practical communication techniques clinicians can use today. Why Dr. Ku looked beyond medicine to improve patient communication. A different approach to delivering difficult news with compassion. What to avoid saying during challenging conversations. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE Val-You Based Care podcast - https://val-you-based-care.captivate.fm/ DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

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  Episode #23

  The Missing Data That Could Change Oncology with Dr. Caroline Chung

  Jul 15, 202652 min

  Until now, our understanding of oncology has largely been built on universal standards. But what if those standards only tell part of the story? In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Caroline Chung, Co-Director of the Institute for Data Science in Oncology. Caroline leads one of the world's largest cancer data infrastructures while continuing to care for patients, giving her a unique perspective on how data, AI, and clinical practice intersect. We explore what led her from the clinic into building data infrastructure, why she became passionate about metadata long before AI was on most people’s radar, and how advances in unstructured data are changing what's possible. We also discuss ambient documentation and the clinical details that are often lost during patient conversations, and why capturing those missing pieces could fundamentally change cancer research and care. If you're interested in the future of AI, data, and decision-making in oncology, this conversation explores how capturing the right information may be just as important as how we analyze it. Covered in this episode: What led Dr. Caroline Chung to build the data infrastructure for one of the largest cancer centers in the world. The evolving role of metadata in the age of AI. Choosing the right metrics for different use cases. Why some AI implementations succeed while others struggle. What may be getting lost during conversations between clinicians and patients. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Dr. Caroline Chung on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chung-caroline/ Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

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  Episode #22

  The Hidden Barriers to Progress Within Oncology with Dr. Adam Bass

  Jul 1, 202659 min

  How do you know when following the guidelines is the right call… and when it isn't? That question becomes very real when you're sitting across from a patient whose situation doesn't fit neatly into the evidence. In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Adam Bass, physician-scientist and incoming leader of the Gastroesophageal Cancer Therapeutics Accelerator at Memorial Sloan Kettering. Dr. Bass has spent his career tackling some of oncology's most complex questions. His work with The Cancer Genome Atlas helped reveal that what was once thought to be a single disease was actually several distinct diseases with different underlying biologies, a discovery that continues to influence drug development today. He later led global oncology drug development at Novartis before returning to patient care and research. In this conversation, we explore the tension between evidence and individual patients, why more data doesn't always make decisions easier, and whether some of the biggest challenges in oncology stem from the disease itself or how we've chosen to study it. We also discuss clinical trial design, patient education, the future role of the oncologist, and why collaboration may be one of the most important drivers of progress. This episode offers a thoughtful look at some of the hardest questions in modern oncology. Covered in this episode: When it's right to follow the guidelines and when it may not be. Why more data doesn't always lead to clearer decisions. The gap in patient understanding and education. Why trying to understand everything about AI could be blocking us from solving bigger problems. The power of collaboration in solving oncology's toughest problems If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Adam Bass on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-bass-a1402534 Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

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  Episode #21

  How Do You Build Technology Oncologists Actually Trust? with Lavi Kwiatkowsky

  Jun 17, 20261h 10mS0

  <p>How do you build something oncology practices will actually use and trust?</p><p>In this episode, I’m joined by Lavi Kwiatkowsky, Founder and CEO of Canopy, an AI platform built specifically for the care that happens between oncology visits. Think remote patient monitoring, AI-powered call management, and the infrastructure needed to support patients when they’re not sitting in front of a clinician.</p><p>Unlike many of our guests, Lavi isn’t a physician. He’s a fellow founder. We’ve both spent close to a decade building in oncology, drawn to the space by personal healthcare...

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