Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein features in-depth conversations with leading voices in corporate governance, including founders, board members, executives, investors, scholars, lawyers, and other trusted advisors. Through long-form interviews, the podcast explores the people, decisions, trends, risks, and ideas shaping today’s boardrooms. Each conversation combines practical governance insights with personal experiences, leadership lessons, and the career journeys of some of the most accomplished minds in business.

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  Episode #218

  Shannon Nash: Boards, AI Agents, and Human Judgment

  Aug 17, 202655 min

  (0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) (0:43) Intro (2:08) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:54) Start of interview. (3:56) Origin Story of Shannon Nash (7:00) Her pivot from Law to Finance (9:15) Her operating and finance career (12:55) Her experience in tech (subscription businesses) and current COO and CFO role at Vibrant Planet (15:50) Her first board (UserTesting) and subsequent board career (Netscout, SoFi, Lazy Dog Restaurants, Silicon Valley Community Foundation) (22:04) Cybersecurity Meets AI (28:47) Where are the Humans? The next wave in the agentic era (31:44) Regulated Boards and Risk (36:25) Private Board Experience (VC and PE). (41:13) About Alpha AI, focusing on AI Governance (43:53) On her podcast No Boxes, Just Verses (46:45) Her obsession with the Acquired podcast (47:41) Her mentors (49:40) Quotes that she thinks of often or lives her life by. (51:06) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that she loves. Beat Shazam show (52:15) The living person she most admires. Shannon Nash is a qualified financial expert, attorney, and CPA with over 30 years at the intersection of technology, finance, and governance. She serves as a board member in both public and private companies. You can follow Evan on social media at: X: @evanepstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/  Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive ): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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  Episode #217

  Sandra Gobert: European Governance in a Changing World

  Aug 3, 20261 hour

  (0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) (1:20) Intro (2:45) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (3:31) Start of interview. (4:55) Origin Story of Sandra Gobert (6:04) Sandra’s Career Path (8:56) Guberna and Board Education. Member of EcoDa . (12:00) Family Firms and Control in EU (13:53) Relationship Agreements Explained (examples, Bpost and Proximus ) (19:05) State Owned Enterprises (SOEs), and Government involvement on Boards (19:58) The Board’s Emerging Fourth Role : advocacy and policymaking, alongside its traditional strategic, leadership, and oversight responsibilities. (22:52) AI and Alternative Structures. PBCs, Foundations, and other European multi-stakeholder models. (29:25) Employees on the Board ("unacceptable in Belgium"). (31:01) Toward European Harmonization ("We need more Europe, not less Europe") (31:50) The EU Inc. Idea (33:57) Principle-Based Governance ("Comply or Explain" framework) (36:19) The Value of Board Evaluations (41:05) Founder Control in Tech (dual class share structures) (44:05) Europe’s Power Shift (46:34) China and Global Competition (49:42) Europe’s Economic Pressures (reference to The Economist's interview with Elon Musk ) (52:23) Board Dynamics Matter (53:19) Books that have greatly influenced her life: Catherine de Médicis, ou, La reine noire , by Jean Orieux (1986) Passion , by Jude Morgan (2005) The Journey of Leadership by Hans-Werner Kaas, Dana Maor, Kurt Strovink, Ramesh Srinivasan (2024) (54:59) Her mentors. (55:52) Quotes that she thinks of often or lives her life by. (57:09) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that she loves. (58:05) The living person she most admires in governance: Christine Lagarde . Sandra Gobert is the Executive Director of GUBERNA. Sandra also serves as an independent director of Fluxys Belgium, sits on the board of ecoDa, the European Confederation of Directors Associations, and is a member of the board of Belgium’s Corporate Governance Committee. You can follow Evan on social media at: X: @evanepstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/  Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive ): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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  Episode #216

  Karen Francis and Penny Herscher: The Chairs' View of a Changing World

  Jul 20, 202659 min

  (0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) (1:17) Intro (2:45) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (3:31) Start of interview. (4:39) AI and Governance Today (5:34) Data Center Politics (reference to moratorium by New York State) (6:48) About the 3rd Rome Conference on AI, Ethics and Governance (9:06) AI Hype and Job Fears (14:45) Birth and focus of The Chairs Circle and Limerick Lane Cellars . (22:53) CEO Succession Lessons (30:58) Founders versus Boards (37:04) EVs and China’s Rise (44:58) Semiconductors , Chips and Geopolitics (49:03) Boards in a Fractured World "[W]e now need to have engaged board members, board members who are curious, who read, who stay up to speed on things, who keep asking more questions. You cannot have directors who are just calling it in anymore." (53:31) Government as Shareholder Karen Francis DeGolia is a board member at Vontier, CelLink, and NAUTO. Penny Herscher is a board member at Lumentum, Penguin Solutions, Forvia SA, and Modern Health. You can follow Evan on social media at: X: @evanepstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/  Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive ): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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  Episode #215

  Mayree Clark and Linda Riefler: Leading-Edge Stewardship in the Boardroom

  Jul 14, 20261h 4m

  (0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) (0:55) Intro (2:37) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (3:24) Start of interview. (4:23) Origin story Mayree Clark (6:08) Origin story Linda Riefler (8:23) About their Leading-Edge Stewardship framework and personal road-map. (11:38) Teamwork and Long-Term Value Creation (16:03) On board diversity and pace of change (19:02) Boards in distress: Mayree joining Ally Financial in financial crisis (2009) (21:39) MSCI Culture and CEO Relations (26:02) Tough calls on CEO transitions (example of CSX CEO transition ) (32:39) Private Equity Board Lessons (flexibility on decision-making and talent pools) (36:22) Handling under-performing directors (43:11) German Governance Across Borders (Mayree's experience serving on Deutsche Bank's board ) (48:06) Purpose, Adversity, and Stewardship (50:42) What are the 1-3 books that have greatly influenced your life: Mayree: Self Renewal : The Individual and the Innovative Society, by John Gardner (1963) Linda: A Brief History of Everything , by Ken Wilber (2017) How the Word is Passed , by Clint Smith (2021) The Spark Within, by Michael Neal (coach) (53:36) Who were their mentors, and what they learned from them. (56:37) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that they love. (1:00:16) The living person they most admire. Mayree Clark is a longtime corporate director, founder and Managing Partner of Eachwin Capital, and former senior executive at Morgan Stanley. She currently serves on the boards of Ally Financial and Deutsche Bank AG. Linda Riefler is an experienced corporate director and former senior executive at Morgan Stanley. She currently serves on the boards of CSX Corporation, MSCI Inc., and North American Partners in Anesthesia, and is chair of Pencils of Promise. You can follow Evan on social media at: X: @evanepstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/  Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive ): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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  Episode #214

  AI in the Boardroom: What Directors Need to Know Now

  Jul 6, 20261h 6m

  (0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) (0:55) Intro (2:44) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (3:30) Start of interview. (4:16) Origin story Marie Bafus (5:30) Origin story Wendy Grasso (7:34) Diving into their article AI in the Boardroom: What Directors Need to Know Now (4:14) Why AI Needs Board Oversight (12:00) Caremark and Oversight Duties (15:12) Mission-Critical Risk Cases. Reference to Marchand case (2019) and Boeing case (2021) (19:18) Where AI Belongs in Governance (board level and board committees) (21:28) Defining Mission-Critical AI (24:45) Strategy, Capital Allocation, and Judgment (29:50) Board Minutes as Litigation Evidence (33:52) Private Companies , Same Duties (38:35) AI Washing and Disclosure Risks (43:10) How Boards (and Board Members) Can Use AI (47:08) Hallucinations, Confidentiality, and Privilege. Reference to U.S. v Heppner case (2026) (52:03) Building an AI Usage Policy (53:36) Recording Boards with AI (note taking apps) (57:05) Workforce Trust and Environmental Risk (1:00:00) AI for Oversight Itself (1:02:02) AI’s Impact on Legal Practice Marie Bafus is a partner in Fenwick’s Securities Litigation Practice and Wendy Grasso is counsel in Fenwick’s Corporate Practice. You can follow Evan on social media at: X: @evanepstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/  Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/ __ Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive ): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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