Both Sides of Success

Hosted by Shane Langley and Travis Middleton, Both Sides of Success dives into the real stories behind what it takes to build a career, a family, and a life worth living. From shop floors and boardrooms to classrooms and communities, we sit down with leaders, builders, and everyday people to explore the wins that put them on the map — and the struggles that almost took them out. This isn’t about highlight reels. It’s about balance, sacrifice, resilience, and the lessons that come from chasing success on both a personal and professional level. If you’ve ever wondered how people define success, how they handle setbacks, or how they balance the demands of work and life, you’ll find the answers here. New episodes every week. Subscribe now and join the conversation.

Both Sides of Success is a business podcast hosted by shane langley, with 14 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

shane langley hosts Both Sides of Success, a business show with 14 episodes published.

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  Unscripted Success: Amanda Meyer on Growth and Resilience

  Aug 7, 20261h 5m

  Amanda Meyer: From Teacher to Travel Entrepreneur, Author & Suicide Prevention Advocate In this episode, Amanda Meyer shares her journey from growing up in Florida after moving from New York to building a multifaceted life as a former educator, model, travel entrepreneur, co-author, keynote speaker, and suicide prevention advocate. She describes starting in modeling and the bar/restaurant industry, returning to school as a non-traditional student, earning her degree from Clemson with two kids, and teaching in Greenville County Schools before leaving due to bureaucracy and burnout. Amanda explains how joining a travel-based network marketing business expanded her mindset through personal development, eventually outpaying her teaching salary and enabling her to go full time. She discusses how co-authoring a book opened doors to speaking, then recounts losing her son Logan to suicide in 2019 while she was abroad, which shaped her mission to normalize mental health conversations, recognize warning signs, and encourage people to ask, “Are you okay?”

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  From Engineer to CEO: Ben's Journey of Transformation and Triumph

  Jul 21, 20261h 25m

  From Textile Engineer to Boutique Recruiter: Ben’s Better Than Found Story, Melanoma Wake-Up Call & How AI Is Changing Hiring Ben, president and CEO of Better Than Found, explains how he moved from textile and industrial engineering into starting a recruiting business after being fired in May 2014, then learning he had stage 3A melanoma, undergoing two surgeries, and becoming cancer-free by July 2014. He describes how emergency savings enabled the leap, how a recruiter mentor introduced a relationship-based “pull” approach to targeted headhunting, and why his firm prioritizes consultative due diligence with companies and candidates over transactional, high-volume recruiting. The conversation covers market uncertainty from elections, tariffs, consolidations, and current talent supply, plus AI’s impact on recruiting—especially commoditizing administrative and transactional work—while emphasizing the enduring value of human judgment, leadership quality, and authenticity in hiring. Ben also discusses working with his wife on finances, family priorities, and his guiding quote from his father.

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  Beyond the ER: Rob Jones on Medicine, Military, and Family

  Jun 19, 20261h 20m

  ER Doctor & Air Force Special Ops Surgeon: Haiti Earthquake, Trauma Care, and Lessons on Success | Rob JonesEmergency physician Rob Jones, a father of three and Prisma Health ER doctor with 20 years’ experience, shares his path from a mobile military childhood to studying biology at the University of South Carolina, learning disciplined study habits in medical school, and choosing emergency medicine. He explains how residency matching works, how an Air Force scholarship after 9/11 shaped his career, and how he trained and served on an Air Force Special Operations Surgical Team, including trauma-center rotations in St. Louis and later living in Germany with extensive travel. Rob recounts rapidly deploying to Haiti after the 2010 earthquake, providing improvised surgical care at the U.S. embassy and delivering a baby in the embassy’s “no man’s land.” The conversation covers stress inoculation, teamwork and communication in trauma, common ER realities, preventative care, parenting lessons on effort and attitude, and his guiding Churchill quote about continuous effort.

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  Revving Up Business: Ren Flickinger's Path from the Ground Up

  May 29, 20261h 30m

  Ren Flickinger: Scaling to $120M, Building Culture, and Making Better Leadership Decisions Ren Flickinger shares how a career change from phone sales and Apple to a fast-growing, faith-based construction company in Omaha helped shift his focus from raw sales talent to building repeatable processes and leadership systems that scaled revenue from about $18M to over $120M in seven years. He describes working on acquisitions by traveling to new locations to install sales, production, and operating systems, and explains how Apple’s obsession with consistent customer experience shaped his thinking. The conversation also covers his racing-family background, lessons from becoming Best Buy’s youngest mobile store manager, and how Thrasher created a coaching role that fit his strengths. Ren discusses protecting culture through a few core principles, leadership-team alignment on “yes/no” decisions, avoiding cookie-cutter operating models, and why developing leaders drives predictable business growth.

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  Building South Carolina: A Conversation with Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evette

  May 11, 202658 min

  Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette on Running for Governor, Keeping SC Open, and Making South Carolina #1 for BusinessIn this episode, the hosts interview South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evette alongside CEO Matt Kelly after she tours their manufacturing shop. Evette discusses her campaign for governor, her background as an accountant and former CEO who built a home-based payroll/HR business into a national company, and why she entered politics after frustration with growing government. She explains how she works with the General Assembly through relationships and shared goals, highlights achievements from the past eight years including major tax cuts, keeping the state open during COVID, and support for teacher pay and universal school choice. Evette emphasizes expanding technical colleges, workforce readiness, and youth employment, outlines plans to cut regulations, modernize government with technology, eliminate state income tax, and better connect small businesses to large OEMs and new industry. She also shares personal stories about family, parenting, and hunting.

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