Breakfast Leadership Show

The Breakfast Leadership Show , hosted by leadership consultant and burnout expert Michael D. Levitt , is a globally ranked leadership podcast exploring how executives build stronger organizations, better leadership systems, and healthier workplace cultures. Each episode features conversations with founders, executives, and industry experts on topics such as leadership operating systems , leadership decision making, executive leadership consulting, organizational leadership systems, and leadership burnout prevention . Listeners gain practical insight into how leadership teams improve performance, reduce burnout, and design the structures that drive sustainable growth. The show covers leadership strategy, workplace culture, decision

Breakfast Leadership Show is a business podcast hosted by Michael D. Levitt, with 600 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Michael D. Levitt hosts Breakfast Leadership Show, a business show with 600 episodes published.

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  Episode #1400

  Hire AI Like Talent, Not Technology | Mike Sullivan on Workforce Intelligence

  Sep 27, 202623 min

  Summary Mike Sullivan is co-founder and Chief Growth Officer at OneDigital, an insurance and financial services organization with roughly 6,000 people across the United States and Canada. He is also co-author of the bestselling book Workforce Intelligence. He came on to talk about what three years of deploying AI inside his own company actually taught him, and the answer is not what most executives are being sold. The turning point was a single sentence. When OneDigital stopped thinking about AI as technology and started thinking about it as talent, and began hiring it, everything changed. Their people mentor the AI, teach it the job, and then hand it the work it genuinely does better. Each AI coworker has a name and a personality, and it becomes the repository of institutional knowledge that used to walk out the door when a 35-year employee retired. Mike is direct about the condition that makes any of this work, which is trust. You cannot lay off ten thousand people in the name of AI and then tell the survivors you are all in on them. He also names the question almost nobody has answered yet: when a growing share of your workforce is AI talent, who manages it, and how do you measure a blended workforce? Michael and Mike also get into the disappearing bottom rungs of the corporate ladder, why Gartner expects a wave of companies to table AI projects over missing ROI, and why Mike now jokes that his father, a union ironworker from Buffalo, would finally call him pro-labor. What you will learn The reframe that changed everything at a 6,000-person company: stop treating AI as technology and start hiring it like talent What a capacity dividend is, and the question to ask once AI hands your team their time back How to build AI coworkers that capture institutional knowledge before your longest-serving people retire Why trust is the precondition for AI adoption, and how layoff headlines destroy it The management gap nobody has solved: who owns AI talent when your org chart only knows human capital Why the bottom rungs of the corporate ladder are disappearing, and what that does to early-career hiring Why AI projects stall on ROI when leaders expect an immediate return from something that needs cultivating About Mike Sullivan Mike Sullivan is co-founder and Chief Growth Officer at OneDigital, an insurance and financial services organization operating across the United States and Canada with roughly 6,000 employees. He is co-author, with Vinay Gidwani, of the bestselling book Workforce Intelligence, written deliberately for non-technical leaders who are trying to run companies through AI adoption without losing the trust of their people. Connect OneDigital: https://www.onedigital.com Workforce Intelligence by Mike Sullivan and Vinay Gidwani Breakfast Leadership Network: https://www.breakfastleadership.com     Note: The Breakfast Leadership Show includes occasional paid partner episodes, in which the guest has paid to appear. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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  Episode #1398

  Stephanie Houser on Fear, Focus, and Real Leadership Growth

  Sep 20, 202637 min

  GUEST BIO Stephanie Houser is a former Fortune 500 executive turned consultant, entrepreneur, and speaker. After 12 years in corporate leadership, she now runs a consulting practice focused on process, risk, product, and technology development for growing businesses. She also operates a self-publishing company that helps writers publish their books, and she is building an asynchronous ed tech tutoring platform. Stephanie speaks and serves on boards, bringing a cross-industry, problem-solving lens shaped by careers in writing, education, corporate leadership, and entrepreneurship. WHAT YOU WILL LEARN Why fear rooted in layoffs is now the biggest barrier keeping people and businesses from moving forward. Why unrealistic timelines, fueled by social media highlight reels, cause people to quit before real traction happens. The difference between chasing virality and building lasting visibility. Why shiny object syndrome derails long-term strategy, using a cruise liner turn as a metaphor for staying the course. Why attention spans have dropped from just over two minutes in 2004 to roughly 47 seconds today, and what that means for leaders. Why personal development starts with empathy, admitting mistakes, and spotlighting others rather than seeking credit. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS Stephanie Houser joins Michael to discuss what separates leaders who build lasting organizations from those who stall out. She describes herself first as a problem solver, a thread running through her varied career across writing, education, corporate leadership, and entrepreneurship. That range gives her more lenses for seeing and solving problems, a point Michael echoes from his own background in healthcare and consulting. Drawing on her work across an ed tech startup, a self-publishing company, and a consulting practice, Stephanie names three forces holding people and organizations back right now. The first is fear, intensified by waves of layoffs that have eroded job security. The second is a timeline problem: social media rewards overnight success, so people quit when real progress, which usually takes years, does not happen in months. She draws a clear line between virality, a temporary surge, and visibility, a durable state built through consistent, trusted engagement. The third force is a lack of personal development, which she ties to empathy and staying connected to the people doing the work. She shares an example of a CEO who assumed her team did not need more support, only to learn the team had been asking for it directly. Leaders who disconnect from front-line reality create openings that get exploited or ignored. Stephanie and Michael return repeatedly to staying the course. She uses the image of turning a cruise liner, which takes three nautical miles of advance planning, to describe how leaders must commit to a long-term direction and resist shiny object syndrome, the short-term distractions that feel exciting but pull an organization off its planned path. Michael shares a cautionary example of a well-funded organization that lost its way chasing shiny opportunities instead of holding to its plan. They also discuss shrinking attention spans. Stephanie notes that undivided attention today lasts about 47 seconds, down from just over two minutes in 2004, so a message needs to be repeated rather than delivered once. She points to the marketing rule of seven as a reminder that repetition, not length, makes information land. The episode closes on personal development as an ongoing discipline. Stephanie encourages leaders to listen more than they speak, admit when they are wrong, spotlight the people doing good work, and learn to say no with confidence, backed by reasoning rather than a title. GUEST CONTACT INFO Stephanie Houser, corporate speaking and board inquiries: https://stephaniehouser.com Stephanie Houser, individual and creative fractional work: https://AboutStephanie.com LEADERSHIP OS CTA Ready to bring more clarity and long-term focus to your leadership? Visit https://www.breakfastleadership.com/leadershipos to schedule your Leadership Operating System diagnostic for your company. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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  Episode #1382

  Deep Story: How Bob Rogers Creates Experiences That Transform

  Aug 30, 202625 min

  What You Will Learn In this episode, you will discover how the most powerful experiences are engineered around a single shared emotional trigger that lives in both the audience and the brand simultaneously. You will learn why most corporate and museum experiences entertain without transforming, and what business leaders must do differently. Guest Bio Bob Rogers is the founder of BRC Imagination Arts, a globally recognized experience design firm with 44 years of work spanning presidential libraries, cultural institutions, and major brand homes. His projects include the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the Jameson Distillery experience in Dublin, and the nine-story Johnnie Walker Princes Street experience in Edinburgh. Rogers began his career in the magic shop at Disneyland, an experience that permanently shaped his philosophy on identity transformation. His forthcoming book, Deep Story, distills decades of award-winning methodology into a practical framework any leader can apply. Website: BobRogers.com | Company: BRCweb.com Episode Summary Bob Rogers joins Michael Levitt on the Breakfast Leadership Show to discuss his forthcoming book, Deep Story , releasing September 8th. Rogers traces the origins of his approach to his days in the Disneyland magic shop, where he discovered that the most meaningful part of a demonstration was not impressing the audience but shifting their perception of what they themselves were capable of. For 44 years, BRC Imagination Arts has been designing permanent experiences for iconic institutions and brands. The defining question his firm asks is not whether visitors were entertained, but whether the experience changed what they do next. The conversation explores the core mechanism of Deep Story: finding the same pre-existing emotional trigger in both the audience and the subject, then building the entire experience around that common thread. Rogers argues this is what separates experiences that permanently alter behavior from those that simply produce a pleasant afternoon. The most resonant experiences cause people to feel that their own inner life is being articulated more clearly than they could manage themselves. Rogers also reflects on why he wrote the book, citing mentors such as Marty Sklar and Buzz Price, Disney Imagineering giants who invested in him early. He describes the book as paying that generosity forward to the next generation of leaders. Key Insights Transformation requires a target. Most organizations spend enormous resources creating experiences without defining the specific behavioral change they want to produce. Deep Story begins with that definition and works backward. The shared emotional trigger is the architecture. It is about locating the same emotional truth that already exists in both the audience and the brand, then making that overlap the structural foundation of everything. Identity shift is the highest outcome. The most powerful thing an experience can do is cause someone to see a new possibility in themselves. Entertaining is not transforming. Memorability and enjoyment are not the metric. The metric is whether the visitor leaves prepared to act differently. Resources and Links BobRogers.com | BRCweb.com | Deep Story releases September 8th Call to Action If this conversation shifted the way you think about how your organization shows up for its customers, share it with a colleague responsible for customer experience, brand, or culture. Subscribe to the Breakfast Leadership Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube, and visit BreakfastLeadership.com for more leadership resources.

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  Episode #1393

  Why Change Management Fails: Kathy Solberg on Workplace Transformation and the Future of AI in Leadership

  Aug 23, 202625 min

  Kathy Solberg Book Discussion Michael welcomed Kathy Solberg to discuss her background and book. Kathy shared her career journey from academia to running a leadership program and starting her own consulting company, Common Unity Consulting. She mentioned her upcoming book "Practical Tools for Workplace Transformation" releasing September 10th. The conversation touched on how Kathy's diverse experiences across academia, consulting, and running peer groups for various professionals have allowed her to accumulate valuable tools and skills that she uses to help others. Change Management Best Practices Kathy explained that many change management efforts fail because complex solutions are applied to complex problems without properly addressing existing systems and infrastructure. She described her "unweaving" process, which starts with noticing and clarifying current systems before acting, emphasizing the importance of understanding what works before implementing changes. Kathy noted that leaders often try too many different approaches without giving previous efforts enough time to succeed, leading to broken trust and employee exhaustion. AI Implementation Planning Challenges Michael shared his experience from government healthcare panels where doctors were often excluded from planning discussions, leading to failed implementations when doctors ultimately rejected the proposed solutions. He drew a parallel to current AI deployments, warning that many AI initiatives will likely fail by 2027 due to lack of proper oversight and understanding of standard operating procedures. Kathy agreed and added that many organizations struggle with creating meaningful strategic plans without proper human interaction in the process. Future-Focused Systems and Tools Book Kathy explained that her book, which took over three years to write, was inspired by her frustration with people wanting to return to pre-pandemic normalcy and her desire to share insights about creating a better future. She described the book as a gift of simplified systems and tools, including 302 worksheet pages that will be available for free on her website when the book launches in September. Workplace Boundaries Book Discussion Kathy discussed creating a book focused on workplace boundaries and control, which started as a personal project but evolved into a workplace-focused publication. Michael shared his experience with conference notes and learning resources, emphasizing the challenge of implementing new knowledge due to limited staffing. They both discussed the importance of applying learning to both personal and professional settings, with Kathy noting how her book addresses the connection between personal and workplace behavior. Book Promotion Timeline Discussion Michael and Kathy discussed the promotion and release timeline for Kathy's book. They agreed to release promotional content gradually over a few days to build anticipation, with Michael's team handling the editing and distribution process. Kathy provided her website kathysolberg.com as the place for people to learn more about her work and the book.

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  Episode #1390

  Facilitation Skills for Project Managers featuring Barry Rosen

  Aug 16, 202627 min

  Barry Rosen has spent decades at Interaction Associates, a firm he joined in 1984 after being drawn to their focus on making meetings more effective. He began his career training teams at Ford, Dow, and DuPont during the early era of quality initiatives, teaching engineers and project managers how to facilitate meetings and navigate interpersonal dynamics. He went on to lead the training division at Interaction Associates for a decade, building out programs in facilitative leadership. Over the years he has trained consultants at firms including McKinsey, Bain, and PricewaterhouseCoopers, helping highly analytical professionals strengthen the human side of their work. His current focus is Essential Facilitation for Project Managers, a program built around the growing number of project managers seeking these skills. What You Will Learn Listeners will hear why facilitation is a teachable skill rather than an innate trait, and how it applies directly to running better meetings and better projects. Barry explains the three dimensions every skilled facilitator manages: results, process, and relationship. He and Michael discuss how artificial intelligence is changing the analytical side of project work while making the human and emotional side more important than ever. The conversation covers why so many AI initiatives stall, often because teams never clarified their outcomes or ownership before deploying the technology. Barry also walks through how project managers are evolving into process consultants who understand stakeholder needs, build agreements, and guide teams through structured problem solving rather than jumping straight to solutions. Episode Highlights Barry traces his path from joining Interaction Associates in 1984 to training engineering teams at Ford, Dow, and DuPont during the early push for quality and consensus based collaboration in American manufacturing. He describes the moment facilitation and collaborative leadership merged into a single discipline, and how that shift fueled a decade of growth in his training programs. Michael shares a personal story about a healthcare clinic project that had to be rebuilt in six weeks after a change in scope, illustrating how communication gaps derail even well managed projects. Barry connects this to his concept of collaborative intelligence, the ability to build agreements and reach outcomes that work for a group rather than any single person. The discussion turns to AI agents joining meetings as active participants, with Barry predicting this will become a normal part of how project teams operate. He closes by describing the upcoming Essential Facilitation for Project Managers program, set to launch in September. Guest Contact Information Barry Rosen, Interaction Associates Upcoming webinars and programs: https://interactionassociates.com/events Call to Action If this conversation on facilitation and collaborative leadership resonated with you, visit https://www.breakfastleadership.com/leadershipos to schedule your Leadership Diagnostic and find out where your organization's coordination gaps really are. More from Barry Rosen: https://www.interactionassociates.com/resources/blog/author/barry-rosen

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