
Episode #4
Growing as a Disciple While Leading Others with Brian Daniel
Send us Fan Mail Host: Robby Bolden Guest: Brian Daniel, Senior Director of Church Strategy for Lifeway Christian Resources Pastor, you spend your life helping others grow in their faith—but who’s helping you grow? In this episode, Robby Bolden sits down with Brian Daniel for an honest conversation about personal discipleship, spiritual growth, and cultivating a disciple-making culture in the church. Drawing from his own journey and decades of experience at Lifeway, Brian shares how mentors and everyday relationships shaped his faith. Together, Robby and Brian explore why pastors need people who encourage and challenge them, how ministry responsibilities can crowd out personal growth, and why becoming more like Christ must remain at the heart of discipleship. In This Episode Why discipleship is a lifelong journey, even for experienced ministry leaders Surrounding yourself with people who model faith, challenge you, and encourage growth Recognizing the difference between growing in leadership skills and growing in Christlikeness Protecting time and space for your own walk with Jesus Practicing discipleship at home through everyday conversations and prayer Leading from an active, personal relationship with Christ Looking beyond attendance and activity for evidence of spiritual maturity Evaluating whether church programs support disciple-making Finding encouragement and support when the responsibility of ministry feels overwhelming Key Takeaways Your own discipleship matters. Pastors need to participate in the journey they invite others to take. Knowledge, experience, and communication skills cannot replace an ongoing walk with Jesus. Growth happens in relationships. Trusted mentors and friends help us recognize blind spots, navigate challenges, and respond to God’s work in our lives. Pastors need that community too. Programs should serve discipleship. Strategies and resources can help, but the goal is people becoming more like Christ. Healthy relationships, love for one another, and conversations about God’s work offer meaningful signs of growth. You don’t have to carry the responsibility alone. Brian encourages pastors to be honest with themselves and trusted people around them, acknowledge what is difficult, and receive help. Questions to Consider Who is helping me grow as a disciple of Jesus? Is my learning drawing me closer to Christ? What is God doing in my life right now? Which ministries in our church are helping people grow—and where do we need to ask harder questions? Resources Mentioned Lifeway Research’s State of Discipleship research Wait Here by Robby Gallaty Replicate Ministries Lifeway’s equipping team, led by Chad Higgins Care for the Pastor Behind the Ministry You spend so much of your life caring for others, but you need care too. Care for Pastors provides confidential counseling, coaching, encouragement, and support for pastors and their families. Visit careforpastors.org and select Get Help to connect with someone who can walk alongside you. Coming Next Join us next week as we begin a two-part conversation with Paul and Niki Speed of Whatever It Takes Ministries about hidden struggles, honesty, God’s grace, and the hope of healing.

