CDO Matters Podcast

How can today’s Chief Data Officers help their organizations become more data-driven? Join former Gartner analyst Malcolm Hawker as he interviews on thought leaders on data fabrics, blockchain and more — and learns why they matter to today’s CDOs. If you want to dig deep into the CDO Matters that are top-of-mind for today’s Chief Data Officers, this show is for you.

CDO Matters Podcast is a business podcast hosted by Profisee, with 110 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Profisee hosts CDO Matters Podcast, a business show with 110 episodes published.

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  Episode #106

  Why Data Teams Are a Tax on the Business | CDO Matters Ep. 106

  Sep 18, 202652 min

  Most data teams think they're too busy to slow down. The real problem is they're too busy taking orders to ever be seen as anything but a cost center. In this episode: The real difference between a "product owner" and a "product manager" and why most data teams are stuck playing the former Why Nick Zervoudis argues data democratization isn't automatically good, using a peanut-butter-aisle analogy for customer segmentation The vendor-funded origin story behind the entire "data literacy" movement traced back to a Qlik-commissioned report Nick's "shift left, shift right" framework for product thinking, and why you need both to serve human and AI-agent customers alike The takeaway: "If you run your organization as a service desk and an order taker, then you are a tax on the business." — Malcolm Hawker About the host + guest: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Guest: Nick Zervoudis is a data product management consultant, trainer, and founder of Value from Data and AI. https://www.linkedin.com/in/nzervoudis/

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  Episode #105

  The Business Already Gets Governance — Data Leaders Just Aren't Listening | CDO Matters Ep. 105

  Sep 4, 202648 min

  Executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos are asking for data governance but the data profession wasn't in the room to answer. The gap isn't the business's understanding. It's ours. In this episode: Why Donna Burbank found business leaders, not data teams, driving governance conversations at Davos this year The flip from "data literacy" to "business literacy" and why the old term is judgmental Donna's "Semantic Pedanticism Feedback Loop" and how jargon fights kill credibility in front of executives Why "assume positive intent" isn't enough on its own. You have to assume positive intelligence too The takeaway: "We tend to sit in our own little silo and say, how come the business isn't hearing us? Because we're talking to ourselves about others." — Donna Burbank About the host + guest: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Guest: Donna Burbank is founder and managing director of Global Data Strategy, a firm focused on data strategy and hands-on implementation.

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  Episode #1

  Making Data AI-Ready with Knowledge Graphs | CDO Matters REPLAY

  Aug 21, 202653 min

  Every CDO is being told to make their data AI-ready. What that actually requires is a harder conversation — and this episode gets into it. In this episode: Why vector embeddings alone aren't enough for enterprise AI — and what knowledge graphs provide that vectors fundamentally can't How the Semantic Web's original vision for open metadata standards maps directly to what CDOs are being asked to build for AI today Why knowledge graphs aren't as technically heavy a lift as most CDOs assume — and what a practical starting point looks like How MDM and knowledge graphs can work together to get CDOs beyond the 360-degree view they've been chasing for decades The takeaway: "The knowledge graph is kind of a translator between natural language and the data and by that, far more people can make use of the data and ask questions across different data silos." — Andreas Blumauer About the host and guest Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Andreas Blumauer is SVP Growth & Marketing at Graphwise and founder of the Semantic Web Company. Watch + full transcript: [profisee.com/podcast/making-data-ai-ready-with-knowledge-graphs-summer-replay] Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/ Guest → https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreasblumauer/

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  Episode #1

  Data as a Product | CDO Matters BONUS

  Aug 7, 202639 min

  Most CDOs talk about data products. Very few approach them the way a product manager would starting with customer need, validating demand, and building only what people will actually use. In this episode: Why scalability without proven demand is a bridge to nowhere and how CDOs fall into that trap constantly What "outside-in" product management looks like in a data function and why it changes everything about how you prioritize How Jonathan Reeve's team at BetaNext links financial data assets to create insights clients didn't know they needed Why influence and storytelling aren't soft skills for data leaders they're the job The takeaway: "You hold the keys to the kingdom. If you're managing data better, you've got the power to influence innovation, product direction, and where investment goes." — Jonathan Reeve About the host and guest Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Jonathan Reeve is Chief Product Officer at BetaNext, a financial services data company. Watch + full transcript: profisee.com/podcast/data-as-a-product-summer-replay Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/ Guest → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-reeve-5a62271/

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  Why 90% of Your Data Isn't AI-Ready | CDO Matters BONUS

  Jul 13, 202634 min

  Most CDOs are still measuring AI readiness with a BI-readiness checklist and it's costing them. 80 to 90 percent of enterprise data is unstructured, sitting outside every governance program built over the last three decades. 📌 In this episode: The split Malcolm calls "the world of measurement vs. the world of meaning" and why Gen AI lives entirely in the latter Why only 25% of the data feeding AI models today is actually governed (per Dresner Research) Why a product manager and a value engineer might matter more right now than any new governance policy Why the 30-year-old model of data ownership breaks down in an AI-driven world and what it needs to become instead 💬 The takeaway: "You get budgets of millions of dollars to solve this problem but every day we disempower ourselves by saying 'garbage in, garbage out.'" About the host: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. This keynote was recorded live at the CDO Magazine CDO/CAO Summit. If you liked this episode: Check out "Beyond Data Catalogs: Building Context for AI and Data Products (Ep. 87)" Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/

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