Episode #219
The Book of Enoch's Forbidden Fallen Angelic Pact and The Second Wave of Nephilim
Biblical scholar Cody, who studied at Moody Bible Institute, joins the show to unpack what the Bible actually says about giants, the Nephilim, and the days of old and also afterward from Genesis 6. Cody explains two competing traditions for how Nephilim bloodlines reappeared after Noah's flood, breaks down the divine council worldview and the angelic hierarchy described in the Book of Enoch, and connects biblical figures like Goliath and Nimrod to this same giant lineage. The conversation covers the Watchers' pact on Mount Hermon, Azazel's role in the wilderness scapegoat tradition, elongated skulls and whether Egypt's pharaohs carried Nephilim blood, and why ancient civilizations worldwide built ziggurats and climbed mountains to meet their gods. Cody runs Logic of God. In This Episode • Cody, a Moody Bible Institute graduate who has spent years studying second temple literature and ancient texts most people have never heard of, joins the show to dig into what the Bible actually says about the Nephilim and giants. He explains that biblical authors often assumed their audience already understood references that modern readers pass over entirely, including the strange line in Genesis 6 about giants being in the land in those days, and also afterward. • That phrase, and also afterward, opens up two competing explanations for how giant bloodlines survived Noah's flood. One Jewish tradition holds that some Nephilim clung to the outside of the ark, though Cody notes this idea gets little support elsewhere in scripture. The more developed explanation follows what's known as the divine council worldview, popularized by Dr. Michael Heiser's book The Unseen Realm, which points to a second wave of fallen angels reproducing with human women, possibly tied to events at the Tower of Babel. • Cody walks through how titles like Nephilim, Raphaim, and Anakim appear to function almost interchangeably across different biblical accounts, particularly during Israel's conquest of the promised land. He connects this same bloodline to figures like Nimrod and Goliath, both of whom fit the profile of unusually large, violent individuals with what he calls an insatiable drive to conquer. • The conversation moves into the Book of Enoch, which describes a group of angels making a mutual pact on Mount Hermon before descending to earth, complete with a named leader, Samyaza, and a chain of command beneath him. Cody draws a parallel to the divine hierarchies found in Exodus and in pantheons across nearly every ancient culture, from Egypt and Greece to Norse and Chinese mythology, suggesting a shared, structured system of these beings governing different nations. • Cody also raises Azazel, another fallen angel named in Enoch, and connects him directly to the wilderness scapegoat ritual described later in the Torah. He and Rye discuss whether the same pride that led these angels to accept worship as gods mirrors all-too-human examples like the pharaohs of Egypt, some of whom are associated with elongated skulls that Cody suggests could hint at a partial Nephilim bloodline. • Rye and Cody discuss a theory that ziggurats and other mountain-shaped structures found across ancient civilizations weren't just architecture, but deliberate recreations of the mountains where these beings were believed to meet with humanity, a pattern Cody sees repeated in cultures with no direct contact with one another. • Touching on more fringe corners of giant lore, Cody discusses accounts of giant remains linked to cannibalism, including the Lovelock Cave findings, while noting this falls outside his core area of study. He closes with a caution about divination practices like Ouija boards and tarot, arguing that people who believe they're contacting a higher self are often unknowingly communicating with familiar spirits who already know a great deal about them. • Cody runs Logic of God, found at logicofgod.com and across major platforms, and is currently writing a new book on church deconstruction titled Deconstruction of the Church: A Call for Reformation of the Protestants, which argues that healthy deconstruction and a pursuit of truth beyond what any one pastor teaches is a valuable part of a Christian's faith journey. Best Line of the Night "You're most likely talking to familiar spirits that are watching everything." Cody, on what actually answers back during a Ouija board or tarot session. Guest Can Be Found Cody runs Logic of God and is active across all major platforms under that name. 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