
Communicating Cyber
Episode 11: What changes when you become a CISO?
In this episode of Communicating Cyber, I’m joined by Jonny Mattey, CISO at Forge Holiday Group, for a conversation that pulls back the curtain on the true reality of stepping up into enterprise leadership. Jonny brings an incredibly grounded perspective, charting his unique journey from the heavy industrial safety of an oil refinery to managing risk for major UK staycation brands like Sykes Cottages and Forest Holidays.We explore the unspoken hurdles of a first-time directorship, challenging the idea that a CISO role is just a simple title bump. Jonny shares the unexpected psychological impact of simply moving his team's seating plan away from IT operations, and details how he uses powerful commercial metaphors - like asking if an executive would willingly close their shop front at 3pm -to make abstract cyber security risks immediately tangible to the business.Whether you are an aspiring CISO or a business leader trying to break the "invisible value" trap of your security function, this episode offers a practical blueprint on how to move past technical jargon and lead risk across the entire enterprise.

