Controlled Burn

Hosted by OKCTL’s Brandon Fountain and Shane Davis, this podcast delivers thoughtful, well-informed coverage of Oklahoma’s cannabis industry. With a balance of expertise and approachability, the show explores current events, pending legislation, regulatory updates, and underreported issues affecting growers, testing labs, dispensaries, and everyday consumers across the state.

Controlled Burn is a health podcast hosted by OKCTL, with 61 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

OKCTL hosts Controlled Burn, a health show with 61 episodes published.

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  Episode #61

  Metrc User Exchange, Malware, and the AI Takeover

  Aug 14, 202646 minS1

  In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon recap the Metrc User Exchange and what they actually took away from the training — including a few workflow fixes they’d love to see become reality. Then the robots enter the chat. From AI-built lab tools and automation to the question of what AI could look like a decade from now, things get weird fast. Add in a phishing email at the lab, mandatory two-factor authentication, an uncomfortable screen time check, UFC tangents, jiu-jitsu trash talk, and a stolen piece of glass recovered by the cannabis community, and you’ve got a pretty normal episode of Controlled Burn. In this episode: – What worked (and didn’t) at the Metrc User Exchange – How AI is changing everyday lab workflows – The lab phishing incident and what happened next – Why everyone suddenly got forced into two-factor authentication – UFC, stolen glass, screen time shame, and the usual detours Chapters (00:00) Metrc User Exchange recap (15:39) The AI Efficiency Problem (18:27) The AI Takeover Gets Weird (24:03) The Screen Time Intervention (27:00) UFC, the Diaz Brothers & Jiu-Jitsu Trash Talk (35:30) The Cannabis Community Recovers a Stolen Pipe (38:03) Oklahoma Cottage Food Law Tangent (39:40) The Lab Gets Phished (42:13) Two-Factor Authentication for Everyone (44:22) Strong Passwords, Bad Habits & the Outro Cannabis compliance, cybersecurity, AI, and absolutely no ability to stay on one topic. Sounds about right. : Team@controlledburn.live: OKCTL.com: https://linktr.ee/okctl

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  Episode #60

  Navigating the Compliance Gray Area (feat. John Koumbis)

  Aug 7, 20261h 49mS1

  Shane and Brandon are joined by John Koumbis for a deep dive into the compliance gray area facing Oklahoma cannabis businesses. With major packaging changes approaching, operators are being asked to spend serious money redesigning products while some of the most important questions still don’t have clear answers. What actually counts as “attractive to children”? Who decides whether a package crosses the line? And how is a business supposed to confidently stay compliant when so much comes down to interpretation? John also gets into his evolution as an industry advocate, the disconnect between regulators and operators, and why Oklahoma may need a better system for reviewing products before businesses invest thousands of dollars bringing them to market. (00:00) Welcome to Controlled Burn (01:40) Big Changes Coming to Oklahoma Cannabis (03:20) Could Most Edible Packaging Become Noncompliant? (05:26) What Happens to Products on November 1? (06:01) The Real Cost of Redesigning Cannabis Packaging (06:21) Breaking Down the New Packaging Rules (07:15) Can John’s Face Legally Stay on the Package? (09:18) Mascots, Trademarks & the Packaging Gray Area (10:35) The Bigger Problem With Oklahoma Cannabis Regulation (12:33) When Businesses Need Answers Regulators Can’t Provide (13:06) Who Decides What Packaging Appeals to Children? (14:21) “Contact Your Attorney” Isn’t Regulatory Guidance (15:13) Spending $50K on Packaging Without Certainty (16:10) The Disconnect Between Regulators and Operators (16:58) Has the Cannabis Industry Evolved Faster Than Regulation? (18:02) John’s Idea for a Packaging Approval Panel (18:53) How Missouri Handles Product Approval (20:00) Approval Delays vs. Launching and Hoping for the Best (20:38) Could OMMA Create a Better Approval Process? (21:39) What Is the EAC Actually Supposed to Do? Navigating cannabis compliance is hard enough when the rules are clear. When they aren’t? Welcome to the gray area. : Team@controlledburn.live: OKCTL.com: https://linktr.ee/okctl

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  Episode #59

  Regulatory Roulette: Packaging Edition

  Jul 24, 202650 minS1

  In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down what happens when cannabis compliance rules are clear enough to enforce—but not clear enough for businesses to confidently follow. The conversation centers on Oklahoma’s evolving packaging restrictions, the cost of redesigning products without reliable guidance, and the uncomfortable reality that compliance can depend on who reviews your label. They also discuss the Megalodon situation, untagged inherited product, unanswered requests for direction, and why operators increasingly feel like they must prove themselves innocent after the fact. Plus: dangerous Oklahoma heat, million-dollar UFC cards, fight-fixing chaos, and the usual detours that somehow lead directly back to cannabis regulation. ( 00:00) Oklahoma heat, workplace safety, and staying alive (10:18) Dana White’s million-dollar UFC card bounty (14:50) What’s happening in Oklahoma cannabis (15:16) The Megalodon Compliance Situation (18:07) Untagged Product, No Guidance, and “Prove Yourself Innocent” (29:40) Oklahoma’s New Edible-Packaging Restrictions (41:38) Flavors, Food Imagery, and the Cost of Subjective Enforcement Is cannabis packaging compliance becoming regulatory roulette? Tell us what your business is seeing. For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: team@controlledburn.live Subscribe for more chaos, compliance, and cannabis industry commentary. : OKCTL.com: https://linktr.ee/okctl

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  Episode #57

  Your Packaging Might Be the Problem

  Jul 10, 202654 minS1

  In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon start with holiday chaos, rained-out fireworks, and questionable middle-aged man advice before diving into the real issue: cannabis packaging might be the problem. The conversation shifts into Oklahoma cannabis compliance, upcoming packaging concerns, child-attractive edibles, safe harbor questions, and what operators need to be paying attention to before rule changes create expensive surprises. If you make, sell, test, label, or package cannabis products, this one is your friendly warning wrapped in a little bit of chaos. (00:00) Welcome back, holiday chaos, and lab life (10:48) Carvana, gap insurance, and accidental dad advice (23:27) Cannabis compliance enters the chat (30:42) When packaging becomes the problem (38:16) Youth-appealing edibles and branding risks (46:33) Safe harbor, rule changes, and operator confusion (54:21) Why industry meetings actually matter (01:03:47) Final thoughts and Controlled Burn wrap-up 📧: Team@controlledburn.live🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl ⚠️ Disclaimer: This episode is for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be taken as legal advice. Always confirm compliance requirements with OMMA, your attorney, or the appropriate regulatory authority.

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  Episode #56

  Seed-to-Sale, But Make It Sketchy

  Jul 3, 20261h 3mS1

  In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon start with flat feet, forbidden pedicures, weight loss, Red Bull crimes, and a deeply suspicious amount of Cheetos — then somehow end up in Tijuana talking bariatric surgery, Mexican Reggie, border rules, and why Gas-X might deserve its own sponsor slot. But eventually, the chaos finds its way back to cannabis compliance. The crew digs into Metrc, seed-to-sale tracking, batch limits, software loopholes, whistleblower claims, and one very important reminder for operators: just because the system lets you do something does not mean the state will agree it was compliant. (00:00) Opening chaos, forbidden pedicures, and flat feet (04:21) Weight loss, old Brandon, and becoming Oklahoma Medium (08:34) Food habits, fasting, Red Bull, and Cheeto confessions (19:03) Bariatric surgery in Tijuana and post-op survival (21:31) Mexican Reggie, weed laws, and border cautionary tales (31:55) Gas-X, pharmacies, passports, and Tijuana adventures (36:52) Popsicles, Mexican water, and San Diego scooter decisions (41:52) Oklahoma cannabis, Metrc, and seed-to-sale tracking (47:52) Metrc as a tool, not the rulebook (52:23) Regulators, reporting filters, batch limits, and compliance risk 💬 Have you seen Metrc used correctly, incorrectly, or creatively? Drop your thoughts in the comments. 📬 For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: team@controlledburn.live 📣 Follow for more chaos, compliance, and cannabis industry commentary.

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