Conversations with Big Rich

Hear conversations with the legacy stars of rockcrawling and off-road. Big Rich interviews the leaders in rock sports.

Conversations with Big Rich is a leisure podcast hosted by Big Rich Klein, with 339 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Big Rich Klein hosts Conversations with Big Rich, a leisure show with 339 episodes published.

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  Episode #339

  Trials build strength in Episode 339 with Sue Lee Bun

  Sep 24, 20261h 9mS7

  Send us Fan Mail In this inspiring episode of Conversations with Big Rich , Sue Lee Bun shares her remarkable journey from fleeing Laos as a young child to building a life rooted in family, resilience, and the off-road community. Sue discusses growing up in a large Hmong family, adapting to life in America, overcoming bullying, and balancing cultural traditions with American life. She explains how she and her husband, Chai, discovered off-roading, raised their sons on the trails, and launched Bunn Welders after fellow off-roaders began relying on their trail-side welding expertise. Sue also opens up about her stage-four lung cancer diagnosis and the overwhelming support she received from the off-road community. That experience inspired the creation of the Hugaroc Foundation, which supports off-road families affected by cancer and plans activities for children and teenagers facing illness. Learn about Hugaroc’s upcoming fundraisers, community events, children’s initiatives, and ways to get involved. Visit hugaroc.org and follow Hugaroc on Facebook and Instagram. Support the show

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  Episode #338

  Finding comfort in the chaos, Tom Gattuso, SEMA’s VP of Events on Episode 338

  Sep 17, 20261h 16mS7

  Send us Fan Mail Tom Gattuso, SEMA’s Vice President of Events, joins Big Rich Klein for a wide-ranging conversation about his journey through automotive events, off-road culture, and the evolution of the SEMA Show. Gattuso shares stories from growing up near Washington, D.C., touring Europe as a jazz musician, playing varsity football, and developing the improvisational skills that shaped his career. He explains how a bold cross-country move in a ’66 Impala convertible led him from automotive sales into event production. The discussion explores his years producing auto shows and Off-Road Expo, including the importance of becoming immersed in the off-road community and embracing unconventional ideas. Gattuso also describes his transition to SEMA and the growth of signature experiences such as the SEMA Cruise, SEMA Fest, outdoor demonstrations, and expanded powersports programming. Additional topics include: How SEMA is organizing truck, off-road, powersports, and related industries The importance of protecting trails and supporting advocacy through ORBA Designing events around the needs of exhibitors, buyers, and enthusiasts The future of product innovation and automotive customization SEMA Fest’s mix of music, drifting, stunt performances, and community Gattuso offers a behind-the-scenes look at the planning, risks, teamwork, and passion required to bring the automotive industry together. Support the show

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  Episode #337

  Jeff Knoll’s Off-Road Journey on Episode 337

  Sep 10, 20261h 33mS7

  Send us Fan Mail Jeff Knoll joins Big Rich to share the winding path that took him from a childhood spent riding motorcycles and dune buggies in Southern California to becoming a major figure in off-road racing and land-use advocacy. Jeff reflects on growing up in Menifee and Glamis, his early experiences at the Boardmanville Trading Post, working through school, starting a family young, and overcoming periods of homelessness. He explains how plumbing, Jeep clubs, rock crawling, and desert racing eventually led to the creation of the California Rock Crawling Association and the early days of King of the Hammers. The conversation explores the vision behind King of the Hammers, its first competitors, the importance of media and storytelling, and Jeff’s decision to leave the event as it grew. Jeff also discusses the personal cost of the Save the Hammers campaign, which helped establish Johnson Valley’s first congressionally designated OHV area. Additional topics include Rally Venture, public-land permitting, the challenges facing motorized recreation advocacy, and Jeff’s work with One Voice. He shares why the Potato Salad Hill Cleanup Challenge remains one of his proudest accomplishments and explains how small acts of stewardship can change perceptions. Looking ahead, Jeff hopes to retire from Lincoln Electric, build a Jeep and camper setup, and return to exploring trails across the country. Support the show

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  Episode #336

  Master Fabber and Rock Bouncing Champion Tim Cameron on Episode 336

  Sep 3, 20261h 8mS7

  Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Big Rich Klein sits down with rock-bouncing champion Tim Cameron, a Tennessee native whose passion for off-road racing began with four-wheelers, Jeeps, and hill climbs. Tim shares how he learned fabrication from Brian Cole and built his first full-tube-chassis buggy, Fat Girl . He discusses the evolution of his rigs, including Jenny Craig , Moon Rover , Hellraiser , Showtime , and Game Changer . His innovative use of a ProFab drop box helped redefine rock-bouncer drivetrain design. The conversation follows Tim’s transition from wild hill climbs to competitive racing. After experiencing Ultra4 suspension technology firsthand with Randy Slawson, Tim embraced bypass shocks, trailing arms, and increased wheel travel. His redesigned buggies helped him win multiple consecutive championships and influenced the direction of rock-bouncing competition. Tim also recalls his 2015 King of the Hammers debut, where he and co-pilot Cole Shirley finished 11th despite fuel-system problems. After racing more than 40 weekends a year, Tim recognized burnout and took time away from competition. During that break, he discovered dirt late-model racing and began mastering an entirely different discipline. Today, Tim continues competing in rock bouncing while developing his dirt-track career. He discusses his current buggy, 100 Shots Reloaded , plans for a super late model, and the possibility of returning to Ultra4 racing. Support the show

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  Episode #334

  Episode 334 features the trusted voice of Keith Purmal

  Aug 20, 202656 minS7

  Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Conversations with Big Rich , Big Rich Klein talks with Keith Purmal, a 2025 Off-Road Motorsports Hall of Fame inductee and one of off-road racing’s most trusted voices. Keith shares stories from growing up in Las Vegas, developing an early interest in electronics and ham radio, and working in communications at Area 51 and Nevada Power Company. His lifelong passion for radio technology eventually connected him with legendary promoter Casey Folks and the Las Vegas 400. For more than four decades, Keith has coordinated race communications across Nevada, Arizona, California, and Baja. He describes the challenges of installing repeaters on remote mountaintops, managing multiple radio networks, adapting to Starlink and satellite communications, and staying calm when races take unexpected and sometimes tragic turns. Keith also reflects on Casey Folks’ leadership, the importance of volunteers, and the teamwork required to make an off-road event successful. He discusses his Hall of Fame induction, the emotion of being recognized by the racing community, and his plans with Cindy to continue supporting races while traveling and enjoying retirement. This episode celebrates the behind-the-scenes professionals who help keep racers safe and events running—and the off-road family that makes the lifestyle so special. Support the show

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