Deconstructing Data

Want to understand marketing data on a deeper level? Tune into Deconstructing Data to learn from BDEX and outside experts on how to use first-party data, target your marketing, and make your advertising as effective as possible.

Deconstructing Data is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 202 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Unknown Host hosts Deconstructing Data, a business show with 202 episodes published.

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  Deconstructing Data

  Why Better Data Changes Marketing Performance

  Sep 21, 202647 min

  Power your business with BDEX! Set up a time to talk with one of our experts: https://www.bdex.com/talk-to-an-expert/ In this episode of Deconstructing Data, host Jessie Lizak is joined by David Welborn, Chief Technology Officer at BDEX, who fills in for David Finkelstein, for a conversation with Nick Cooper, Global Vice President of Strategy and Innovation at Landor. Nick explains why brand performance requires a different approach to measurement than traditional performance marketing, and why businesses need to look beyond easily measured metrics to understand the true financial impact of brand. The conversation explores how brand equity can be quantified and connected to incremental revenue, why data can give creative teams the confidence to make bolder decisions, and how future-facing financial models can help businesses evaluate brand investments. Nick also explains how data enrichment can reveal persuadable audiences by combining different perspectives, from demographics and attitudes to brand equity and emotional demand spaces. He shares how AI is changing brand measurement and strategy, including the growing importance of understanding how brands are perceived by large language models and how tools like WPP Open and Claude are becoming part of the modern marketing technology landscape. Main Topics Covered Why Measurement Undervalues True Brand Performance Using Data to Support Smarter Creative Decisions Identifying Persuadable Audiences Through Data Enrichment Tech Stack Connect with Nick Cooper Website: https://landor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-cooper-14b22324/?isSelfProfile=false Landor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/landorglobal/ Follow BDEX to stay updated on upcoming episodes Website: https://www.bdex.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bdex/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9J5k2SM3PNT6FVnX3N022A Connect with David Welborn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidpwelborn/?isSelfProfile=false Connect with David Finkelstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finkelsteindavid/ Connect with Jessie Lizak LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessie-lizak/

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  Deconstructing Data

  Data Does Not Tell the Full Story

  Sep 14, 202640 min

  Power your business with BDEX! Set up a time to talk with one of our experts: https://www.bdex.com/talk-to-an-expert/ In this episode of Deconstructing Data, hosts David Finkelstein and Jessie Lizak sit down with Kristin Wozniak, Chief Data and Growth Officer of Cosmo5, to explore the limitations of data-driven decision-making and why businesses need to look beyond dashboards and KPIs to understand what is really happening. Drawing from her experience in audience research, advertising, measurement, and strategy, Kristin explains why data can help organizations learn and understand their customers but cannot determine whether a decision is ultimately the right one. She also explores the importance of intuition, experience, experimentation, and human judgment in a world increasingly focused on data and AI. The conversation examines why performance metrics often fail to capture the full complexity of human behavior, how optimizing for clicks and ROAS can distract from the customer experience, and why qualitative research still has an important role in modern marketing. Kristin also explains how an obsession with measurable outcomes can turn data into a liability by limiting curiosity, creativity, experimentation, and innovation. Finally, she shares her perspective on building an effective technology stack, arguing that even the best tools and data are only as valuable as the team using them. Main Topics Covered What Your Data Is Not Telling You Data Does Not Capture Human Behavior When Data Becomes a Liability Tech Stack Connect with Kristin Wozniak Website: https://cosmo5.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-wozniak-5b64602a/ Cosmo5 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cosmo5/ Follow BDEX to stay updated on upcoming episodes Website: https://www.bdex.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bdex/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9J5k2SM3PNT6FVnX3N022A Connect with David Finkelstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finkelsteindavid/ Connect with Jessie Lizak LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessie-lizak/

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  Deconstructing Data

  Better Data Activation Drives Better Engagement

  Sep 4, 202640 min

  Power your business with BDEX! Set up a time to talk with one of our experts: Talk to an Expert In this episode of Deconstructing Data, hosts David Finkelstein and Jessie Lizak sit down with Eric Williamson, CMO of CallMiner, to explore how businesses can turn the massive volume of customer conversations they collect into actionable intelligence. Eric explains why analyzing every customer interaction—not just a small sample—can uncover insights that improve customer experience, product development, marketing, and business performance. The conversation also explores how AI and agentic technology are helping enterprises make sense of overwhelming amounts of customer data while making those insights accessible to people beyond traditional data analysts. Eric also discusses the importance of connecting customer experience and marketing data, combining solicited feedback like surveys with unsolicited insights from real customer interactions. He shares why businesses should start small when activating their data, the importance of human oversight when deploying AI agents, and the risks of trying to build complex AI solutions without considering security, scalability, integrations, and total cost of ownership. The episode wraps up with a look at the technology stack Eric and his team use to support marketing, sales, customer engagement, and data-driven decision-making. Main Topics Covered Turning Customer Conversations into Actionable Intelligence Using AI to Overcome Customer-Data Overload Connecting Marketing and CX for Enterprise Alignment Building a Technology Stack That Supports Action Connect with Eric Williamson Website: CallMiner LinkedIn: Eric Williamson on LinkedIn CallMiner LinkedIn: CallMiner on LinkedIn Follow BDEX to stay updated on upcoming episodes Website: BDEX LinkedIn: BDEX on LinkedIn YouTube: BDEX on YouTube Connect with David Finkelstein LinkedIn: David Finkelstein on LinkedIn Connect with Jessie Lizak LinkedIn: Jessie Lizak on LinkedIn

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  Deconstructing Data

  How Identity Resolution Turns Anonymous Intent Into Action

  Aug 31, 202642 min

  Power your business with BDEX! Set up a time to talk with one of our experts: https://www.bdex.com/talk-to-an-expert/ In this episode of Deconstructing Data, hosts David Finkelstein and Jessie Lizak sit down with Dirk Rohweder, entrepreneur and marketing technology expert at Tivaro, to explore how identity resolution can turn anonymous behavioral signals into actionable customer intelligence. With more than 35 years of experience building data and marketing infrastructure, Dirk explains how identity graphs connect fragmented signals across devices, domains, and customer touchpoints to create a more complete picture of the people behind the data. He also breaks down the difference between public and private identity graphs and why maintaining an identity graph requires constant, real-time updates. The conversation also explores why some of the most valuable customer intent signals happen before a person ever logs in or identifies themselves. Dirk shares practical examples of using anonymous signals for audience suppression, predictive models, abandoned-cart triggers, and real-time personalization. He explains how businesses can move beyond traditional lifecycle marketing and begin responding to customer intent earlier in the decision-making process, creating better experiences while improving marketing efficiency. The episode also looks at the evolving role of AI and LLMs in modern marketing technology infrastructure. Main Topics Covered How Identity Resolution Connects Fragmented Behavioral Signals Public vs. Private Identity Graphs Turning Anonymous Customer Intent Into Action Using Behavioral Signals to Power Intent-Driven Marketing Tech Stack Connect with Dirk Rohweder LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohweder/ Follow BDEX to stay updated on upcoming episodes Website: https://www.bdex.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bdex/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9J5k2SM3PNT6FVnX3N022A Connect with David Finkelstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finkelsteindavid/ Connect with Jessie Lizak LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessie-lizak/

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  Deconstructing Data

  Better Data Drives Better Targeting

  Aug 17, 202645 min

  Power your business with BDEX! Set up a time to talk with one of our experts: https://www.bdex.com/talk-to-an-expert/ In this episode of Deconstructing Data, Jessie Lizak is joined by David Goecke, Founder and CEO of GoTex, filling in for David Finkelstein, as they sit down with Ashley Moser, Co-Founder and Chief Commercial Officer of MelodyArc, to explore how businesses can combine AI, data, and human expertise to make smarter decisions. Ashley shares how MelodyArc helps organizations orchestrate data, AI, and people while emphasizing why human oversight remains essential for maintaining data accuracy and turning insights into meaningful action. The conversation explores how qualitative signals can be transformed into actionable data, how businesses can use real-time information to improve targeting and customer experiences, and why not every data workflow needs to happen in real time. Ashley also explains how companies can determine when automation is appropriate, when human intervention creates more value, and how institutional knowledge can be captured from employees and incorporated into future workflows. The episode wraps with a look at the AI and data tools powering Ashley and David's workflows, including MelodyArc, Cursor, H2O AI, and other emerging technologies. Main Topics Covered Human Oversight Ensures Data Accuracy in AI Turning Qualitative Signals into Actionable Data Unlocking Real-Time Data for Better Targeting Tech Stack Connect with Ashley Moser Website: https://melodyarc.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleylmoser/ MelodyArc LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/melodyarc/ Connect with David Goecke LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidgoecke/ Follow BDEX to Stay Updated on Upcoming Episodes Website: https://www.bdex.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bdex/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9J5k2SM3PNT6FVnX3N022A Connect with David Finkelstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finkelsteindavid/ Connect with Jessie Lizak LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessie-lizak/

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