DEI Will Not Die

Is DEI dead? Not even close. DEI Will Not DIE cuts through the noise with sharp, practical insights for DEI practitioners, people leaders and changemakers. Hosted by Bree Gorman, coach, consultant and trusted voice in DEI strategy and inclusive leadership. This podcast dives into the real work behind impactful equity and inclusion. From building DEI plans that don't gather dust to leading with authenticity, this is your space to reflect, learn and lead with purpose.

DEI Will Not Die is a business podcast hosted by Bree Gorman, with 25 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Bree Gorman hosts DEI Will Not Die, a business show with 25 episodes published.

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  Episode #24

  24: How do we engage men with gender equity?

  Aug 13, 202626 min

  Professor Michael Flood joins Bree to unpack why engaging men is essential to gender equity work, not an afterthought. They cover why men often fail to recognise everyday sexism, the "social norms" trick that gets more men speaking up, and a care-based lens on violence prevention that reframes accountability without losing compassion. The conversation also digs into why parental leave uptake among men remains so low, and what the economics behind that reveal about where real structural change needs to happen. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #23

  23: The Gap Between Being Included and Holding Power

  Jul 30, 202627 min

  Bree talks with William Ward-Boas, a proud Autistic and First Nations advocate with intellectual disability from the LGBTIQA+ community, about what genuine co-design requires and why most organisations aren't actually doing it. Drawing upon over seven years' experience across the advocacy sector, William draws a sharp line between consultation and co-design, unpacks the trauma embedded in asking people to share lived experience without knowing where it will lead, and reflects on actively sharing power as they moved from project worker to board chair. The episode closes on William's framework: being invited into a room isn't influence, being consulted isn't being listened to, and being present isn't having power. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #22

  22: Racial equality, but on whose terms?

  Jul 16, 202628 min

  Andrea joins Bree for an honest conversation about what anti-racism actually requires inside Australian workplaces, and why most organisations get it wrong. Drawing on her own experience as a woman of colour navigating largely white public sector organisations, Andrea unpacks the difference between individual racist behaviour and structural racism, why "I don't see colour" invalidates the people it's meant to reassure, and who really gets to decide what equality looks like. The conversation turns to workplace complaints processes, and Andrea is direct about the harm they cause: all-white investigators and decision-makers, the expectation that you educate the organisation about your own experience, and the people who quietly stop reporting because they know it will go nowhere. A grounded look at what leaders need to do differently, from racial literacy to actually handing over power. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #21

  21: AI and DEI: it's not either/or

  Jul 2, 202619 min

  In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Bree Gorman takes on one of the most charged topics in the field right now: artificial intelligence, and what it means for diversity, equity and inclusion. Rather than landing on whether AI is "good" or "bad" for inclusion, Bree makes the case that it is both at once. It creates genuine access and equity for people who have long been excluded, while at the same time amplifying bias and challenging the job security of the most marginalised employees. Bree draws on their own experience as an ADHD practitioner, the realities of AI in recruitment, and research showing how biased systems can make the people who use them more biased over time. They also look ahead to the uneven impact of job losses, and why reskilling and support can't be an afterthought. A grounded, practical conversation about using these tools with your eyes open: holding onto the equity gains while actively designing against the harms. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  DEI Will Not Die

  20: Ripples of Inclusion: Anti-racism as a gateway with Carrie Sawyer

  Jun 18, 202632 min

  Bree's first international guest, Carrie Sawyer, joins to talk about her book Ripples of Inclusion. a question-and-answer guide to anti-racism that grew out of the conversations people were having after the murder of George Floyd in 2020. Carrie and Bree dig into why "can't we just get along?" is more loaded than it sounds, how privilege becomes harmful through gaslighting rather than its existence alone, and what allyship looks like beyond good intentions. Carrie also shares the story of her six-year-old niece's Black Lives Matter lemonade stand and what happened when the neighbourhood showed up. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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