
Field Frequency
From Hardware to Charging Success: Mike DiNucci on the Next Era of EV Infrastructure
Send us Fan Mail What does it take to build an industry before the market fully understands the need? In this episode of Field Frequency, host Jason Cortes sits down with Mike DiNucci, Chief Revenue Officer at AmpUp and one of the earliest commercial leaders in EV charging. Mike shares the unconventional path that took him from owning a neighborhood coffee and ice cream shop to becoming the first nontechnical employee at Coulomb Technologies, later known as ChargePoint. Drawing on nearly two decades in the industry, Mike explores how EV charging has evolved through three distinct eras: hardware differentiation, software capabilities, and the growing demand for serviceability and charging success. He and Jason discuss why a charger showing “online” does not necessarily mean a driver can complete a session—and why post-installation support may determine which companies lead the next decade of EV infrastructure. The conversation also covers the shift from a “pump” mindset to a “park” model, the importance of simplifying complex charging operations, the value of hardware and software flexibility, and the consolidation Mike expects to see across the market. Along the way, Mike explains why he remains confident in the future of electric transportation despite industry headwinds. • Mike’s unconventional path from small-business owner to EV charging pioneer • What it was like selling charging infrastructure before mass-market EVs existed • Why workplace charging helped establish the early market • The three eras of EV charging: hardware, software, and service • The difference between platform uptime and charging-session success • Why site hosts need simplicity without sacrificing capability • How the “pump-to-park” shift changes the way drivers think about charging • Why post-installation service could shape the next decade of EV infrastructure • What market consolidation may mean for charging networks, hardware providers, and site hosts • Mike’s outlook for EV adoption and the future of the industry About Mike Mike DiNucci is the Chief Revenue Officer at AmpUp. An early leader in EV charging, he joined Coulomb Technologies—later ChargePoint—as its first nontechnical employee and went on to spend nearly 12 years helping grow the company’s global sales organization. Today, he brings nearly two decades of industry experience to AmpUp, where he helps advance flexible EV charging management solutions designed to work across a wide range of hardware. Connect with Mike and AmpUp Connect with Mike DiNucci on LinkedIn Email: mike@ampup.io Visit: https://ampup.io CHAPTERS 00:00 — "What does EV stand for?" 00:52 — Meet Mike DiNucci, CRO of AmpUp 01:15 — The mentor Mike never knew he had 03:06 — From selling gelato in Saratoga to selling $80K workstations 06:04 — Laid off in 2008: the lunch that changed everything 08:50 — Employee #1 who wasn't an engineer at ChargePoint 09:15 — "Shouting into a hurricane": selling EV charging in 2009 10:07 — Whose problem is charging infrastructure, anyway? 11:15 — The four places people park, and why dwell time changes everything 14:20 — The one vertical that didn't care about ROI 16:37 — The three eras: hardware, software, and service 19:04 — "Who's going to roll the truck when I need help?" 20:25 — Why the industry still can't operationalize charging 21:55 — Uptime vs. charging success rate: the metric that matters 23:51 — Charging-as-a-service and the chasm we're in 26:27 — Hiding complexity: the single pane of glass 31:31 — Better Place, battery swapping, and $1B in failed bets 34:19 — Pump model vs. park model: "It takes 15 seconds to charge" 35:26 — Your mom's 100-foot phone cord and every paradigm shift ever 37:07 — Texas grew 15x in EVs. The chargers didn't follow. 39:48 — Why car companies don't actually want to sell you an EV 41:51 — The cellular network analogy: how many CMS platforms survive? 44:01 — Rivian, vertical integration, and knowing your lane 46:22 — AmpUp's original idea: "Airbnb for EV charging" 48:10 — Five-year prediction: attrition, consolidation, and the three pillars 50:36 — $7.49 gas and the case against EV pessimism 54:48 — What actually differentiates a CMS platform in 2026 54:55 — How to reach Mike

