
Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen
227 | What Can the American Church Learn From the Global Church?
What can the American church learn from the global church? And just as importantly, what can the global church learn from us? In Episode 217 of Fly on the Wall , I sat down with Pastor Norman Gray, who helps lead a network of 1,100 churches across India , for one of my favorite conversations we've had on the podcast. Norman brought a perspective we don't often get to hear. He's preached in 45 countries and has watched churches grow rapidly in some parts of the world while others struggle to break through. We talked about what both sides of the global Church can learn from each other. The American church has incredible strategy, systems, and resources. But in many parts of the world, there's a level of loyalty, dependence on God, and spiritual hunger that we could learn from. The goal isn't one or the other. Spirit and strategy have to coexist. We also unpacked why some churches plateau, what separates simply getting bigger from actually becoming healthier, and why numbers can tell us more about the condition of our church than we sometimes want to admit. Here's some of what we unpack: What the American church can learn from churches around the world Why loyalty and reliance on God matter more than ever Why spirit without strategy and strategy without spirit both fall short The three stages of growth: personality, programs, and process The difference between being a fan of Jesus and truly following Him Why people everywhere want to feel loved, valued, and like they belong The metrics that can reveal whether your church is actually healthy Why pastors have to stop putting a positive spin on negative data How systems and processes can help a plateaued church grow again No matter where you lead, the culture may change, but many of the principles don't. Healthy churches need the Spirit of God AND the wisdom to steward what He's entrusted to them. Listen to Episode 217 of Fly on the Wall today. Follow us on social media + Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/church.boom + Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mychurchboom + Website: https://www.churchboom.org About Us Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.

