🔥 Follow Me to the M-R-O-P!

Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! is a podcast for men considering the Illuman Men’s Rites of Passage (MROP). Through real, honest conversations with men who’ve been through the rites, we share what the experience is actually like—so you can discern whether this initiation is the right next step for you. - https://mroptalk.com

🔥 Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! is a education podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 34 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Unknown Host hosts 🔥 Follow Me to the M-R-O-P!, a education show with 34 episodes published.

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  Episode #33

  Episode #33 feat. Chester Trocha (Encore)

  Aug 10, 202627 minS1

  What happens when a corporate executive caught in the rat race sits in silence by a pond and finally lets his guard down? In this special encore presentation of Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! , host Brian Mueller brings back his very first conversation on the podcast with Chester Trocha . As Brian heads to the Illinois Men's Rites of Passage this week to stand with the men crossing the threshold, we revisit Chester's powerful 2012 initiation at Pilgrim Park. Chester, a co-convener for Illuman of Illinois, shares his journey of leaving behind the superficial containers of the corporate world to discover a deeper spiritual churning. Guided by the wisdom of Weaver Belden Lane, Chester recalls the profound impact of intentional rituals, the beauty of a diverse council group featuring a Franciscan friar and a Mennonite minister, and the uncontainable joy that led him to buy coffee for a stranger on the drive home. Episode Highlights The First Encounter: Reliving the very first episode of the podcast as a special encore presentation. Belden Lane's Wisdom: The incredible impact of nature, silence, and an authentic storyteller. Sobbing by the Pond: The overwhelming mix of emotions Chester experienced immediately after the rites concluded. The Starbucks Joy: Driving home and feeling an uncontainable happiness that spilled over to a stranger. The Slow Burn: How the rites initiated a slow spiritual churning that led to daily centering prayer and the CAC's Living School. Links & Resources Brian Mueller (Host) BriansPoems.com Illuman MROP Choosing Presence (Sponsor) Practicing Presence App The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr Adam's Return by Richard Rohr Breathing Under Water by Richard Rohr Trust Stillness by Brian Mueller Credits First and foremost, thank you to Chester Trocha for sharing his journey and his heart with us today. Thank you to Fr. Richard Rohr and the men of Illuman who have stewarded the Men’s Rites of Passage since 1996. Thank you to Jim Heaney and Jim Taylor for their dedication to Choosing Presence . Music Credits: Slow Mo Dreams by Soundroll Becoming a Legend by Vens Adams

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  Episode #32

  Episode #32 feat. Steve Duncan

  Aug 3, 202627 minS1

  What happens when you retire and realize you don't have any in-depth male relationships outside of your professional life? In this thirty-second episode of Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! , host Brian Mueller sits down with Steve Duncan to discuss his 2015 initiation at Camp Tamarack in Northern California. Steve shares his journey of taking a huge leap of faith into men's work, arriving at the rites in a carpool "clown car," and the transformative power of vulnerability. Episode Highlights The Leap of Faith: How retiring and wanting a deeper relationship with his new son-in-law led Steve to seek out male connection. Supported in the Struggle: Steve recalls a deeply moving moment during a physical ritual when a team member gently supported him. Awakening to Contemplation: How the first morning sit around a campfire opened the door to a rich, ongoing contemplative practice. MROP vs. Elder Rites: Steve compares the multi-generational bonding of his men's rites to the profound, specific grief work of the Elder Rites. Holding the Thread: A beautiful reflection on William Stafford's poem "The Way It Is," and why Steve's marriage is the thread that keeps him grounded. Links & Resources Brian Mueller (Host) BriansPoems.com Illuman MROP Choosing Presence (Sponsor) Practicing Presence App The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr Adam's Return by Richard Rohr Breathing Under Water by Richard Rohr Trust Stillness by Brian Mueller Credits First and foremost, thank you to Steve Duncan for sharing his journey and his heart with us today. Thank you to Fr. Richard Rohr and the men of Illuman who have stewarded the Men’s Rites of Passage since 1996. Thank you to Jim Heaney and Jim Taylor for their dedication to Choosing Presence . Music Credits: Slow Mo Dreams by Soundroll Becoming a Legend by Vens Adams

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  Episode #31

  Episode #31 feat. Nine Lives with Jeff King

  Jul 27, 202656 minS1

  Why am I sharing an episode from another podcast on our feed? Because understanding the Enneagram is an incredibly powerful tool for the masculine spiritual journey—and I wanted to share a conversation that dives deep into it! Rest assured, there is also plenty of relevant discussion here about Illuman and the Men's Rites of Passage. In this special thirty-first episode of Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! , the tables are turned as host Brian Mueller becomes the guest on Nine Lives with Jeff King: Live Your Best One . Jeff, a counselor and coach with the Narrative Enneagram, interviews Brian about his experience navigating life, faith, and community as an Enneagram Type One (The Reformer). Episode Highlights The Enneagram as a Spiritual Tool: Why understanding your personality type is essential for growth, and how the "Type One" drive for perfection can be both a gift and a heavy burden. What is Mine to Do?: Learning to discern the difference between healthy responsibility and codependent fixing. The Origins of Illuman: Brian reflects on Richard Rohr’s early New Jerusalem community in Cincinnati, the history of the MROP, and the deep, universal hunger for authentic brotherhood. Poetry and the type 1-to-4 connection: How stepping into creative expression through mystic poetry allowed Brian to silence his inner critic and process the grief of his divorce Choosing Presence: Reclaiming meditation and contemplative prayer as a deeply Western, Christian tradition of the heart. Links & Resources Jeff King Nine Lives with Jeff King (podcast) Brian Mueller (Host) BriansPoems.com Illuman MROP The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr Adam's Return by Richard Rohr Breathing Under Water by Richard Rohr Trust Stillness by Brian Mueller Credits First and foremost, thank you to Jeff King for allowing me to share an episode of his podcast - Nine Lives with Jeff King: Live Your Best One . Thank you to Fr. Richard Rohr and the men of Illuman who have stewarded the Men’s Rites of Passage since 1996. Music Credits: Slow Mo Dreams by Soundroll Becoming a Legend by Vens Adams

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  Episode #30

  Episode #30 feat. Mike Clawson

  Jul 20, 202634 minS1

  What happens when you spend five years pouring your heart and soul into building a business, only to have it completely fall apart through no fault of your own? In this thirtieth episode of Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! , host Brian Mueller sits down with Mike Clawson from Austin, Texas, to discuss his 2022 initiation at Johnsonburg, New Jersey. Mike opens up about arriving at the rites carrying the heavy grief of a lost "passion project" and a suddenly unmoored identity. As a former administrator for Illuman, Mike offers a unique behind-the-scenes perspective on the organization, while reflecting on the challenges of dropping his own guard to be truly vulnerable with other men. Episode Highlights The Disorienting Loss: Navigating the grief of a failed business venture and learning that "it is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose." Lover and Magician: Why the MROP focuses more on the emotional depth of the Lover and Magician archetypes, rather than the traditional King and Warrior energies. The Rain and the Woods: The somatic, visceral power of sitting alone in the freezing rain to excavate unresolved grief. Human Work vs. Men's Work: Mike’s perspective on why the inner work of the rites transcends gender, even if men specifically need a male-only container to feel safe enough to begin it. Redefining Ikigai: Shifting away from the Western obsession with "grand purpose" to find meaning in the simple, everyday things that get you out of bed. Links & Resources Brian Mueller (Host) BriansPoems.com Illuman MROP Choosing Presence (Sponsor) Practicing Presence App The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr Adam's Return by Richard Rohr Breathing Under Water by Richard Rohr Trust Stillness by Brian Mueller Credits First and foremost, thank you to Mike Clawson for sharing his journey and his heart with us today. Thank you to Fr. Richard Rohr and the men of Illuman who have stewarded the Men’s Rites of Passage since 1996. Thank you to Jim Heaney and Jim Taylor for their dedication to Choosing Presence . Music Credits: Slow Mo Dreams by Soundroll Becoming a Legend by Vens Adams

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  Episode #29

  Episode #29 feat. Jay Gallamore

  Jul 13, 202636 minS1

  What happens when a retired naval pilot—who used to schedule his Saturday naps days in advance—steps out of his head and into his heart? In this twenty-ninth episode of Follow Me to the M-R-O-P! , host Brian Mueller sits down with Jay Gallamore to discuss his 2024 initiation at Shrine Mont, Virginia. Jay shares his journey of navigating PTSD, divorce, and the unraveling of his life, ultimately finding a tighter steering wheel for his spiritual path through Illuman. He opens up about the shock of the "mirror gauntlet," balancing his "three buckets" of life, and why the radical inclusivity of men's work needs to consciously make space for military veterans and first responders. Episode Highlights The Wide Road: How hitting rock bottom with PTSD and a crumbling marriage sparked a profound spiritual journey. The Mirror Gauntlet: The emotional shock of witnessing the deep childhood wounds of other men during ritual. Head to Heart: Transitioning from a highly analytical, schedule-driven life to a grounded morning meditation practice. Military Men & Radical Belonging: A candid discussion on the tension conservative or military men might feel in progressive spiritual spaces, and the need for true inclusion. The Three Buckets: Learning the hard way to balance family, religion, and volunteer work without overcommitting. Links & Resources Brian Mueller (Host) BriansPoems.com Illuman MROP Choosing Presence (Sponsor) Practicing Presence App The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr Adam's Return by Richard Rohr Breathing Under Water by Richard Rohr Trust Stillness by Brian Mueller Credits First and foremost, thank you to Jay Gallamore for sharing his journey and his heart with us today. Thank you to Fr. Richard Rohr and the men of Illuman who have stewarded the Men’s Rites of Passage since 1996. Thank you to Jim Heaney and Jim Taylor for their dedication to Choosing Presence . Music Credits: Slow Mo Dreams by Soundroll Becoming a Legend by Vens Adams

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