Form & Structure

Welcome to Form & Structure, a podcast exploring the intersection of policy, technology, and financial innovation. Hosted by Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, this series delves into the most pressing issues shaping the future of digital finance. Form & Structure is presented by Surus, an institutional-grade, regulated asset management and custody platform that enables builders and investors to engage in the on-chain economy.

Form & Structure is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 38 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Episode #13

  CLARITY Cleared Committee. What Comes Next for Crypto Policy with Sheila Warren & Greg Xethalis

  Jun 3, 202648 minS2

  On May 14th, the Digital Asset Market CLARITY Act cleared the Senate Banking Committee — but a markup isn't a law, and passage isn't the finish line. Sheila Warren (Former CEO, Crypto Council for Innovation) and Greg Xethalis (General Counsel, Multicoin Capital) join Patrick Murck for Form & Structure's monthly policy roundtable to break down the main pillars of the CLARITY Act, why GENIUS may have been the bill that mattered, and the regulatory work ahead. As Greg puts it: "We've probably got five years of rulemakings ahead of us if clarity passes. If clarity doesn't pass, there's still two to three years of important rulemaking." A candid conversation on developer protections, the calendar risk facing the bill, and whether crypto's policy class is about to lose its main-character status.

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  Episode #34

  Karen Ubell on SEC/CFTC Guidance and the CLARITY Act's Final Mile

  May 17, 202640 minS2

  In another episode of our recurring Policy & Regulatory Roundtable, Karen Ubell, Partner at Goodwin, joins Patrick Murck to discuss the SEC and CFTC's joint guidance on crypto assets and break down the framework. Karen warns its 'express promises' approach 'encourages no disclosures,' an unusual position for an agency 'founded on the basis of full and fair disclosure.' They also cover how the framework cites the 2017 SAFT (which she and Patrick both contributed to) as a valid mechanism a decade after the SEC was rumored to hate it, whether CLARITY actually crosses the finish line. Note: This episode was recorded before the Senate Banking voted to advance the CLARITY Act.

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  Episode #11

  Instant Settlement Is Great Until It's Not with Peter Glyman

  Mar 23, 202642 minS2

  Peter Glyman (Coinbax) joins Patrick Murck to break down the compliance layer missing from enterprise stablecoin payments...and why community banks are running out of time.

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  Episode #10

  Is the Clarity Act Dead? Debating Crypto's Legislative Future

  Feb 18, 202654 minS2

  Greg Xethalis, Karen Ubell, and Sheila Warren join Patrick Murck to debate the Clarity Act blowup, crypto market structure legislation strategy, and whether there's still a window to pass comprehensive crypto legislation this year or if the industry needs to modularize and pass what it can.

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  Episode #9

  How AI and RegTech Are Transforming Financial Regulation with Jo Ann Barefoot

  Jan 29, 202639 minS2

  Financial regulation is failing to keep pace with innovation and the results are catastrophic. The UN estimates that less than 1% of financial crime gets caught globally, despite banks spending tens of billions annually on AML compliance. In this episode, Surus CEO Patrick Murck sits down with Jo Ann Barefoot, former Deputy Comptroller of the Currency and CEO of the Alliance for Innovative Regulation, to explore why outdated regulatory technology is the bottleneck preventing both effective crime detection and financial innovation. Featuring Jo Ann Barefoot's decades of experience helping regulators adapt to technological change, from FinTech waves to crypto to AI transformation. Relevant for: Crypto builders, DeFi teams, compliance professionals, RegTech innovators, stablecoin issuers, tokenized asset platforms, financial services leaders, policy experts.

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