
Episode #4
Joe Cirincione | The Gulf Quagmire
Donald Trump says he has won the war with Iran. Joe Cirincione says America has lost it, and the damage goes far beyond the battlefield. What does Trump do when he cannot win, but refuses to accept defeat? We discuss the war’s consequences for American power, Saudi Arabia’s nuclear ambitions, and the Pentagon’s push to give the president more nuclear options. Smaller bombs come with a promise: use one, keep the war limited. But the other side gets a vote. Joe Cirincione is a nuclear policy expert, author and vice chair of the board at the Center for International Policy. For more from Joe, here are three recent pieces well worth your time: • On the Iraq War https://joecirincione.substack.com/p/we-warned-you-the-iraq-war-was-a • Donald Trump Will Soon Have New Ways to Start a Nuclear War https://joecirincione.substack.com/p/donald-trump-will-soon-have-new-ways • The Madman Cometh https://joecirincione.substack.com/p/the-madman-cometh You deserve to be informed, not played for clicks. If you're tired of noise, outrage and five-minute opinions, subscribe to Frontlines & Backrooms. Every week, we sit down with the people who have spent decades researching, negotiating and shaping the world we live in.






