
Episode #15
Episode 157 - We Love Woman!
Send us Fan Mail The final CES Letter episode begins with Utah’s apparently prayer-induced rain, tornado warnings, fire-nados, and the Anti-Intellectini: raspberry lemonade vodka, cranberry-apple-raspberry juice, and lemon, served with a rim of crushed Smarties—because intellectuals must be pulverized before they become dangerous. Abigail eats the leftover Smarties dust directly from the bowl before dumping it into her drink, creating a chunky sacramental slurry that perfectly embodies the episode’s theme. The hosts also investigate Alexander Skarsgård’s potential as a fuckable wicker basket, celebrate humanity’s ancient commitment to dildos, dissect the House of the Dragon finale, and establish that the Pokémon theme followed by Phil Collins’s Tarzan soundtrack is powerful enough to make a pregnant Abish cry about Robert Irwin. As usual, the road from Mormon history to sentient wicker penis is remarkably short. History: [00:32:04] Abigail presents “We Love Women,” an examination of how Mormonism reveres the abstract ideal of capital-W Woman while denying actual women autonomy. From wives appearing alongside houses, servants, oxen, and donkeys in the biblical inventory of male property to Doctrine and Covenants 132 declaring that plural wives “belong” to their husband, the institution praises women as daughters of God, mothers in Zion, and nurturers—provided they remain pure, maternal, heterosexual, beautiful without vanity, exhausted without resentment, ambitious only on behalf of their families, and authoritative without ever challenging male authority. Mormon women receive influence rather than power, then are encouraged to enforce the system through modesty lessons, marital advice, motherhood policing, and “benevolent sexism” disguised as loving concern. The internet takes that existing machinery and industrializes it. Church leaders encouraged women to carry Mormon domestic perfection onto blogs, YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok, where family life became missionary material, measurable content, and eventually a marketable product. Abigail traces that path from the bloggernacle and Eight Passengers to MomTok, Taylor Frankie Paul, and Ballerina Farm: Ruby Franke turned control and humiliation into parenting content; Taylor’s public unraveling became more profitable than perfection; and Hannah Neeleman’s elite ballet training disappeared beneath sourdough, raw milk, eight children, and an egg-collecting apron she received instead of the trip to Greece she wanted. Whether the woman is an immaculate tradwife or a televised train wreck, the machine sells tickets to both—and everyone watching, criticizing, hate-following, or recapping still feeds it. FHE: [02:10:44] The hosts finish the CES Letter’s “Other” section with the Church’s changing name, institutional anti-intellectualism, warnings against unauthorized internet research, and the wonderfully Orwellian claim that some truths are simply “not very useful.” Boyd K. Packer, Dallin H. Oaks, Quentin L. Cook, and Neil L. Andersen collectively argue that inconvenient history should be withheld, uncomfortable information is probably false, and anyone damaged by discovering documented facts can always repent and put the blinders back on. Meanwhile, the Church quietly publishes Gospel Topics Essays acknowledging many of the same claims it once dismissed as anti-Mormon lies. They also revisit “when the prophet speaks, the debate is over”—a doctrine rendered slightly inconvenient by the priesthood ban, the Church’s abandoned “I’m a Mormon” campaign, and Russell M. Nelson later declaring the word Mormon a victory for Satan. The central problem is not one questionable claim that can be patched with apologetics; it is hundreds of contradictions, reversals, omissions, and falsehoods accumulating until the shelf ceases to exist. The hosts close four years and 157 episodes with reflections on the anger of realizing they and their families were systematically lied to, Abish’s upcoming maternity hiatus, and one final prayer offered in the sacred name of Fanny Stenhouse and her stolen fucking bonnets. Follow us on Insta @gr8_and_spacious, Twitter @gr8andspacious, Discord (https://discord.gg/pdeXSQdga) and Reddit u/gr8_and_spacious for behind-the-scenes shenanigans, hilarious memes, and maybe even a sneak peek at our next episode.. If you've got a burning question, a hilarious anecdote, or just want to say hi, shoot us an epistle at greatandspaciouspod@gmail.com. And don't forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review of our podcast! Support the show





