
Episode #15
EP 1015: On Ego: Why Female Attorneys Need It Part 2
Part two of the ego discussion turns to when confidence curdles into a problem. Mary Simon opens with a story about two rival attorneys sniping at each other in a pretrial conference until the judge shut it down, refusing to referee an "ego measuring contest." Liz Lenivy points out that judges punish cockiness the way juries punish a lack of confidence and shares a case where a co-counsel's cocky, nonchalant attitude pushed a client to seek her out instead as proof that ego can quietly damage client trust. The episode closes on humility, with Mary recalling a moment her dad, who built their firm from nothing, brushed off her attempt to celebrate his success: "the firm is just the people."






