Hello Chaos

Every day, entrepreneurs all over the world roll out of bed and say: Hello, Chaos. And more often than not, we’re having that conversation in our own heads. It’s time to crack the dialogue wide open. Hello Chaos is a weekly podcast dedicated to entrepreneurs and founders, published every Sunday. It is another platform brought to you by OrangeWIP. It is a megaphone and round table created specifically to welcome bright, stubborn, visionary minds to a conversation founders have been craving. Here, founders have permission to vent—or be vulnerable. To bring the wildest ideas. Their greatest obstacles. And find a national sounding board for solutions. Here, we want founders show off—or allow them to speak their truth. To meet challenges head-on. To make hyper-local community connections. And share “aha!” and “oh shit” moments. Welcome to Hello Chaos. Founders, it's time to unmute yourself.

Hello Chaos is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 225 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

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  Episode #228

  Ep. 220 Katie LeDoux - Her Great Idea Didn't Sell Itself

  Sep 26, 202642 min

  Katie LeDoux had the résumé. The Smithsonian, the Kennedy Center, and a clear idea for helping nonprofits get funded. She figured that was enough. It wasn't. When she launched Sunflower Grant Writers, she was new to Omaha, didn't know anyone, and the world was shut down. Clients didn't line up at her door. She'd finish her work by 11am and spend the rest of the day cleaning a house that had never been cleaner. What she learned the slow way is what a lot of founders learn too late. People want to know you before they hire you, and no idea sells itself. She built her client pipeline one relationship at a time, then hit the next wall. Her first instinct was to hire people she could be in charge of. The team only started working once she hired people smarter than her and got out of their way. Now her grant writers are spread across the country and as far as New Zealand, she reviews instead of writes, and she finally has room to dream about what's next. If you're sitting on a good idea and wondering why nobody's calling, start here. 1️⃣ A great idea won't fill your pipeline. People will. Katie assumed a good idea would bring clients to her. Cold calling nonprofits got her nowhere because people wanted to meet her first. Build relationships before you need the revenue, or spend your first year with a very clean house. 2️⃣ Stop hiring people you can boss Her first instinct was to hire people she could manage. The team got better when she hired different skill sets and people with their own ideas, then let them own the work. Hire for control and your company never gets bigger than your own ceiling. 3️⃣ Clarity is kinder than being nice Katie's early hiring mistakes came from avoiding hard conversations with people who weren't the right fit. Now she leads with a lesson from Brené Brown, clarity is kindness. Set the expectation, tell the truth, and let people respond. Skip that and you end up letting people take advantage of you. Timestamps 0:00 Meet Katie LeDoux and Sunflower Grant Writers 1:16 How an art history major learned grant writing at the Smithsonian 2:43 When the dream job fell apart after the move to Omaha 3:38 The wrong fit job that pushed her to go out on her own 5:08 She built it and nobody came, the first year myth 7:49 Why the founder stops writing and starts filling the pipeline 8:13 The hiring mistake of wanting people she could be in charge of 10:36 Why go do it works for some people and fails for others 11:20 Hiring on gut instinct over the better résumé 11:53 The delegation shift that finally gave her room to dream 13:20 Why she named it Sunflower 14:56 Flat fees, and why applying to the wrong foundation wastes your time 16:46 What she'd do differently, network before you launch 17:47 The Omaha founder community that cheers her on every day 22:43 How she keeps a remote team connected and focused 24:41 Jennifer's 641 challenge for building a life outside the business 33:56 The idea she's building to help small nonprofits write their own grants 36:07 Gritty now, dreamy next 37:15 Stop trying to act like what you think a CEO should be 38:32 Why she hasn't driven a car in 25 years 39:54 The Brené Brown lesson that shaped how she leads 42:12 The win she wants to celebrate a year from now 42:59 Where to find Katie and Sunflower Grant Writers Katie built Sunflower Grant Writers one relationship at a time, so if you want to see how she's helping nonprofits get funded, find her here. Website LinkedIn Instagram Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

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  Episode #227

  Ep. 219 DeMario McIlwain - Being Early To AI Cost Him

  Sep 19, 20261h 13m

  DeMario McIlwain built the future before there was a market for it, and the head start cost him more than it paid. He was teaching prompt engineering before ChatGPT existed, and he became the first in the US to put AI avatars in front of a learning platform, back when the rest of the world was still arguing about Bitcoin. Being early got him on the news and in the magazines. It also handed him a problem nobody warned him about. The moment everyone else caught up, the $20K he paid a Tel Aviv company to license that avatar tech turned into something anyone could buy for $5 a month. A self taught developer who calls himself a rogue YouTube scholar, DeMario came up as a touring musician who learned to see code the same way he heard a song, by ear. No Silicon Valley, no Ivy League, no computer science degree, just a Carolina kid who kept reading until he could build things his own peers swore would never scale. Now he runs Skilldora as a human first shop that refuses to automate a founder out of their own business, even for a big check, and he spends his days pulling people out of both camps, the ones too scared of AI to touch it and the ones letting it run them into the ground. His story is the one every early founder eventually lives, the reward and the punishment of being early, and what it takes to keep pivoting when the market moves faster than you do. Here is what being early taught him. 1️⃣ Being First Is A Cost, Not A Trophy DeMario became a news story for being early to AI avatars, then watched the whole category commoditize the exact thing that made him special. The $20K tech he licensed now runs $5 a month. If your edge is being first, you are renting it, not owning it, and the day everyone catches up is the day your moat becomes a monthly fee. Build the next thing while you are still ahead, because the lead never lasts as long as it feels like it will. 2️⃣ Keep A Human On The Controls DeMario runs a human first shop and will turn down a big check before he automates a founder out of their own business. He is all in on AI as a tool, but he has watched company after company let the tool define their process instead of the other way around, and it breaks every single time. The move is not more AI. It is knowing your own process well enough to decide where AI actually belongs. 3️⃣ Proof Beats The Title Every Time Anybody with a weekend certificate is calling themselves an AI expert now, the same way anybody with a laptop started calling themselves a producer. DeMario's filter is dead simple. Ask to see the work. If someone wants to rebuild your business but cannot show you one thing they have built, including for themselves, keep your wallet closed. In a gold rush, the people selling shovels always Timestamps 0:00 How a camera problem turned him into an AI first mover 2:40 The experts who hated how they looked on video 3:40 The Tel Aviv tech that let him clone people 4:38 Becoming the first in the US to teach with AI avatars 6:08 Why he spends his time debunking AI fear instead of selling it 9:37 Meet Ethan, the AI assistant who started calling him Doc 11:24 The day his own AI told him he was scope creeping 13:43 The AI experiment that should make every founder pay attention 15:03 He directed the movie, now he is watching it from the audience 22:33 No Silicon Valley, no Ivy League, built it anyway 23:02 Walking in the room and getting mistaken for the sales rep 36:00 He had a prompting course up before ChatGPT existed 39:38 The category exploded and the pivot never stopped 40:00 The $20K edge that now costs five dollars a month 47:43 The one word he uses for the whole journey 53:07 Why investors will not fund you without AI now 1:06:52 How to spot a fake AI expert before you pay them DeMario has been early to every AI wave and has the scars to prove it, so if you want to see where he thinks all of this is heading next, find him here. Website LinkedIn Instagram Podcast Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

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  Episode #226

  Ep. 218 Maggie Bilby - Rich Families Fail By Gen Three

  Sep 12, 20261h 2m

  Every founder eventually runs into the same math. If a business cannot survive without you in the room, you have not built a business, you have built a demanding job. Maggie Bilby watches that failure play out at the highest stakes imaginable, inside families worth thirty million dollars and more, where fortunes quietly vanish by the third generation not from bad investments, but because nobody taught the next generation how to actually hold what they inherited. Twenty years in traditional wealth management gave Bilby the industry playbook, until an ultimatum forced her into a career she never chose. A decade later she noticed a pattern in her clients and built a business around it, launching Gen2 Advisors a little over a year ago. Founders will recognize the rest: the pressure to scale past your own hours, and the discipline of building an exit strategy before you need one instead of scrambling for it later.  Here is what a year of building that on purpose taught her. 1️⃣ Your niche is already inside your client work You do not find a niche by brainstorming it, you find it by noticing who keeps showing up. Maggie Bilby spent a decade in generalist wealth management before she realized one specific type of client kept gravitating toward her, and the work she loved most was the work they responded to most. She built Gen² Advisors on that pattern instead of ignoring it. Miss that signal and you keep doing broad, forgettable work while someone else builds the focused business you were sitting on the whole time. 2️⃣ Money without judgment does not survive Passing down wealth is easy. Passing down the judgment to hold it is the part almost nobody does. Bilby calls it the translation problem, and the reason family fortunes vanish by the third generation is not bad communication, it is that nobody trains the next generation to actually hold power. She has watched it wreck fifteen hundred tire dealerships and thirty million dollar families the exact same way. If you are building something to hand off one day and you are only transferring the asset and not the judgment, you are not building a legacy, you are building a countdown. 3️⃣ Stop hiring your way out of a bottleneck Bilby's firm was capped by how many hours she could personally sit across from a client, so instead of stacking headcount she started writing, turning advice she used to give one on one into something clients could absorb without her in the room. That single shift freed her calendar enough to waitlist new clients on her own terms. Founders who try to scale by adding more of themselves usually just build a bigger, more expensive version of the same bottleneck. Find the thing that can carry your judgment without you physically present, and that is what actually scales. Timestamps 0:00 Meet Maggie Bilby and why families quietly lose it all 1:18 The real reason she walked away from traditional wealth management 3:38 The pattern she could not ignore that built her entire business 6:13 The ultimatum that forced her into the career she almost refused 7:43 What nobody warned her about the first year of running her own firm 9:21 Why so many businesses survive one generation and collapse the next 12:33 The three generation curse every founder should know before they exit 18:03 The real reason inherited wealth and inherited businesses fall apart 20:54 The question that breaks even the most successful founders 25:39 Why she started turning away clients instead of chasing more 31:02 The writing lesson that stopped her from burning out at scale 34:17 Her five item rule for staying focused without losing her mind 38:25 The four word sentence from her daughter that changed her business 48:30 The advice she gives every founder who feels like they are drowning 1:00:12 Why protecting yourself is the same as protecting your business 1:04:51 Where to find Maggie Bilby and Gen2 Advisors If you are building something you actually want to outlive you, Maggie is the kind of person worth following before you need her. Website LinkedIn Substack Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

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  Episode #225

  Ep. 217 Megan Rosen - She Escaped Client Hours And Built A Startup

  Sep 5, 202646 min

  Megan Rosen spent a decade building other people's businesses before she let herself build her own. She helped her family's construction company break into franchising, then took an Illinois food brand from nine family owned locations to a private equity buyout, and somewhere inside all that expertise she noticed something she couldn't unsee. The tools she kept building for other founders were the product she should have been building for herself. That realization became Pallas OmniStack, a patent pending AI platform Rosen built with her co founder Ashley Walsh, born out of a simple problem. An agency client went viral overnight and drowned in a thousand unqualified leads with no way to sort the real ones from the noise. What started as a voice qualifier turned into a full operating system for founders who can't outspend bigger competitors on marketing, and now it's expanding into wearables built for healthcare, memory care, and neurodivergent kids. None of that growth came free. Rosen nearly signed away her leverage to an investor who wouldn't put his own name on the paperwork, a reminder that the fastest way to lose your business is to protect it a little too late. Here's what she wants every founder building past their limits to take with them. 1️⃣ Your product is already hiding in your service work Megan didn't set out to build software. She kept solving the same lead qualifying problem for one client, then a second, then a third, until the fix became the business. Most founders are sitting on a version of this right now and don't see it because they're too busy delivering the service to notice the pattern underneath it. Miss it, and you keep trading hours for money while somebody else eventually builds the tool you already invented. 2️⃣ The red flag shows up before the money does An investor wanted Megan's trust before he'd offer any of his own. He refused to sign her NDA, then sent one back with a hidden commission clause buried inside it. She almost let someone talk her out of trusting her own read on the deal. Ignore that instinct and you don't just lose money, you lose control of the thing you built. 3️⃣ You can't scale what only you can answer Megan gave every client her personal cell number and paid for it in burnout. Real growth started the moment she made herself less available, not more. If you're still the bottleneck for every decision, question, and 9pm text, you don't have a company, you have a very demanding job. Set the boundary or stay stuck being the whole business by yourself. Timestamps 0:00 Meet Megan Rosen and the two businesses she is building right now 7:04 How a family construction company turned into a marketing agency and an AI startup 14:57 The moment the product stopped being an idea and became real 16:15 The fake investor who wanted her to sign his NDA instead of hers 26:59 What actually makes running this business worth it 28:40 How she and her co founder split the work without breaking the partnership 30:23 What building this company taught her that she did not expect 32:51 Why she cannot function without running every single day 37:51 The two things she would change if she could start over 42:01 The one word she uses to describe this journey and the next one 44:19 The best advice she ever got, and the advice she gives every founder now 46:50 Where to find Megan, Pallas OmniStack, and Rosen Walsh Megan turned the fix she kept building for her clients into a patent pending company, so if you want to see where she's taking it next, find her here. Website LinkedIn Instagram Personal Instagram Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

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  Episode #224

  Ep. 216 Joy Foster - Scaled to £2.2M & Still Couldn't Read the Numbers

  Aug 31, 202654 min

  Joy Foster built a company that helped 16,000 women rebuild their working lives. She also ran it for years without knowing what a P&L was. TechPixies was winning awards and climbing past £2.2 million in revenue while its founder was still learning the money on the fly, the same founder who'd run her very first business straight out of her personal bank account. That's the gap nobody warns you about. You can build something people genuinely love and still have no real idea how to keep it alive. Joy is the founder and CEO of TechPixies, the UK training company that's helped thousands of women return to work, change careers, and start businesses of their own. And she's living proof that being great at building a thing and knowing how to run it are two entirely different skills. TechPixies is her third company, and every one before it taught her something the hard way. The business that worked but wouldn't scale. The cash flow math she picked up mid payroll instead of on day one. The 150k loan she took in 2021 just to keep her team paid, the one she's still paying back. Somewhere in there she stopped doing every job she could do with her eyes shut and started building the systems, the hires, and the blunt weekly questions that let a company run without its founder propping it up. If you're caught between the version of your business that got you here and the version that's meant to carry you forward, you'll see yourself in Joy's story. It's financial literacy, scaling without losing the plot, and the uncomfortable morning you realize the bottleneck is you.  Here's what stood out. 1️⃣ You can't outrun the numbers you avoid Joy scaled TechPixies past £2.2 million and still didn't know what a P&L was for years. She ran her first company straight out of her personal bank account and learned cash flow mid payroll instead of before it. Revenue hid the problem right up until it couldn't anymore. If you keep treating the money as somebody else's job, you're not delegating, you're gambling, and the bill always lands at the worst possible moment. 2️⃣ Stop doing the job you could do asleep The second Joy spotted a task she could handle with her eyes shut, she knew it wasn't hers to keep. That's the exact work founders cling to, because it feels productive and it feels safe. But every hour you pour into the thing you've already mastered is an hour the whole business sits and waits on you. The bottleneck isn't the market or the team. It's the founder who won't let go. 3️⃣ People won't buy confidence, so sell the result TechPixies hands women their confidence back, but Joy learned fast that confidence doesn't sell. People won't pay for a feeling they can't picture. They pay for the concrete skill that gives them the feeling. Lead your offer with the transformation instead of the tangible thing that creates it, and you'll pour everything into a pitch nobody reaches for, no matter how real the outcome is. Timestamps 00:00 The messy middle nobody puts on LinkedIn 01:03 The moms who wanted what she built for their sons 03:31 The business that worked but refused to scale 07:48 The money mistakes she made before she knew the rules 09:15 The quiet terror of making payroll every month 11:10 How to sell something people don't know they need yet 20:00 The hiring test that shows who you'll have to fix 21:44 From £29k to a million and completely buried in it 28:13 The system that broke the second she looked away 32:14 The bottleneck was her the whole time 33:35 The two questions she asks herself every Friday 36:22 The £150k loan she took just to keep everyone paid 39:20 The one book she wishes shed read on day one 49:39 The hidden cost of scaling faster than you should Joy doesn't dress any of this up, which is exactly why she's worth keeping an eye on. Website LinkedIn Instagram YouTube Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

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