In the Flow of Work

Where managers and people leaders explore what it takes to lead well in modern teams. AI-powered, manager-led, and grounded in the flow of work. Real stories, tough lessons, and practical ideas for setting expectations, giving feedback, and keeping performance on track.

In the Flow of Work is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 15 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Unknown Host hosts In the Flow of Work, a business show with 15 episodes published.

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  Episode #15

  15 - Performance happens in between Reviews

  Mar 20, 202645 minS0

  <p>Jennifer Turner, Senior Director of People Operations at G2, joins Gavin to unpack what performance actually looks like inside a high-performing culture. Her perspective stands out because she treats performance less like an HR event and more like a daily operating rhythm grounded in clarity, feedback, and trust.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this episode, Jen shares why managers need to think like coaches, why “feedback is a gift” only works when it’s specific and timely, and how strong expectations help eliminate surprises. They also explore the role automation can play - not to replace judgment, but to mak...

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  Episode #14

  14 - AI Meets the Manager Crisis

  Mar 11, 202656 minS0

  <p>Many of you know the famous Stephen Huerta. If you don’t, he is the co-host of Modern People Leader and a 25-year HR operator whose career spans consulting, corporate HR, HR tech, and media. He brings a sharp point of view on what managers are really carrying right now.</p><p>In this episode, Stephen breaks down how HR’s push for scale quietly dumped performance work, survey follow-up, and talent development onto managers - then AI showed up and raised the stakes again. The conversation gets into manager overload, change management, trust, and why performance reviews are stil...

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  Episode #13

  13 - Structure doesn’t kill culture - bad structure does

  Feb 19, 20261h 1mS0

  <p>Ryan-Mae McAvoy, VP of People Ops at Blackthorn, joins Gavin Johnston to share how she thinks about performance when a company is scaling fast, staying remote, and trying to keep trust intact.</p><p>We get into what managers actually need when “vibes” stop working - why Blackthorn treats bi-weekly 1:1s as non-negotiable, how to add guardrails without creating red tape, and why clarity beats ratings when you want fairness and real accountability.</p><p>In the Flow of Work exists to help HR leaders build performance systems that managers can run and cultures people want to stay in.</p><p...

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  Episode #12

  12 - The Simple System That Makes Managers Consistent

  Feb 12, 202639 minS0

  <p>Natania Mathany, VP of People at A Thinking Ape, shares how they build great managers in a remote team without drowning everyone in process.</p><p><br></p><p>We talk about the leadership gap that shows up when strong ICs get promoted, and how ATA built a clear manager baseline that still leaves room for personal style. Natania breaks down their non-negotiable bi-weekly 1:1s, how they shipped manager training in modules (before it was perfect), and the feedback loops they use to keep improving it through surveys, skip levels, and manager roundtables.</p><p><br></p><p>---<...

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  Episode #11

  11 - How Ravelin runs performance without ratings

  Feb 4, 202636 minS0

  <p> Kyrie Burgoine is the Director of People Ops at Ravelin, and she’s spent the last few years building performance practices that fit how their teams actually work - especially in a company with high tenure and a lot of trust.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, Kyrie walks through how Ravelin handles performance without formal ratings or rigid frameworks. We get into what it looks like when each department runs things a little differently, how she helps first-time managers get comfortable giving tougher feedback, and why underperformance can stick around longer than anyone wants in a “too...

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