Episode #152
Belief vs. Knowing: Dropping Out of the Mind with Arjun Bruggeman
In this episode of the Integral Yoga Podcast (Ep. 152), we sit down with master percussionist and sound healer Arjun Bruggeman. Known extensively for his decades of touring and playing the tabla alongside kirtan wallah Krishna Das, Arjun shares his profound evolutionary journey from a young punk-rock-loving drummer to a devotional musician and sound journey guide. Arjun opens up about his early life, the hilarious story of how he got his first drum kit, and his first chaotic introduction to the world of kirtan. He dives deep into what happens internally while anchoring a room full of chanters, sharing incredible transcendent experiences of devotion and the feeling of complete stillness on stage. We also explore his shift during the pandemic toward his solo "Sound Journey" work—inspired by the etheric nature of the Northern Lights—and how he uses meditation and ambient percussion to help others drop out of the mind and into the "sensation arts" of the body. 🌿 In This Episode You'll Discover: • The Chaos of Kirtan: Arjun’s transition from heavy metal and punk rock to playing tabla for Krishna Das. • Stillness in Action: What it feels like to find complete stillness and "watch your body play" on stage. • Belief vs. Knowing: How direct, experiential moments dissolve intellectual spiritual concepts. • The "Sensation Arts": Shifting out of the analytical mind and into the deep sensation of being present in the body. • Sound as a Portal: How Arjun designs solo sound journeys using ambient percussion and mantra. • Devotion & Teachers: Reflections on his time with spiritual teachers like Siddhi Ma. ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction & early musical roots (heavy metal, punk, and prog rock) 01:13 - The hilarious story of Arjun's first drum kit 04:41 - First impressions of Kirtan (and why it originally felt like "a mess") 06:05 - What happens internally while drumming for Krishna Das 07:14 - Experiencing out-of-body stillness on stage 09:05 - A transcendent vision of Neem Karoli Baba/Maharajji 11:00 - Facing suffering at age 16 & early meditative experiences 13:19 - Is something wrong with the world? The paradox of acceptance 15:37 - Transitioning to solo "Sound Journeys" and the Northern Lights 18:41 - The "Sensation Arts" & dropping out of the analytical mind 22:10 - The critical difference between Belief vs. Experiential Knowing 25:23 - Surrendering in the presence of Siddhi Ma About Arjun Bruggeman: Arjun is a world-renowned percussionist, tabla player, and sound healer. For nearly two decades, he has accompanied Krishna Das worldwide, grounding the rhythm of global kirtan practices. Today, he also leads his own retreats and solo sound journeys, blending ancient ambient sensibilities with deep meditation. Connect with Arjun: • Website: https://www.arjunspace.com/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arjunbruggeman/ • Spotify: Listen to Arjun's Music: https://open.spotify.com/search/arjun%20bruggeman 💬 If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to the Integral Yoga Podcast on Acast, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify. Your support helps us share these inspiring conversations on yoga, devotion, and conscious living with the world! #IntegralYoga #IntegralYogaPodcast #ArjunBruggeman #AviGordon #Kirtan #Tabla #KrishnaDas #SoundHealing #Meditation #Devotion #SoundJourney #InnerPeace Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
