Jung At Harp

Jung at Harp – Where Music and Psyche MeetJoin us most Fridays at 9:15 AM ET for Jung at Harp—a weekly conversation between composer Deborah Henson-Conant and Jungian analyst Kathleen Wiley exploring the deep connection between music, psychology, and self-expression. This series isn't about teaching, selling, or proving anything. It's about curiosity, exploration, and the art of conversation. What happens when a psychoanalyst and a musician discuss creativity, freedom, and the human experience? New ideas unfold, perspectives shift, and deeper understanding emerges. Jung at Harp began as a simple car ride conversation—one that neither wanted to end. Now, it's an ongoing dialogue, shared with the world, about how music and the mind shape each other and transform our lives.

Jung At Harp is a society podcast hosted by Deborah Henson-Conant & Kathleen Wiley, with 88 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Deborah Henson-Conant & Kathleen Wiley hosts Jung At Harp, a society show with 88 episodes published.

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  Episode #224

  [224] Jung at Harp #224 Cultivating Human Presence

  Aug 21, 202643 minS1

  Jung at Harp – #224 Cultivating Human Presence In a world increasingly shaped by technology, how do we continue to cultivate genuine human presence? In this episode of Jung at Harp , Kathleen Wiley and Deborah Henson-Conant explore the relationship between human presence and technological and technical processes . Where do they meet? Where do they interfere with one another? And perhaps most importantly, how can they work together to enhance rather than diminish our experience of being fully present? Through their conversation for discovery, Kathleen and Deborah reflect on the choices we make when navigating technology, creativity, music, psychology, and human connection. Rather than treating technology and human presence as opposites, they consider how awareness and intention can help us understand the role each plays in our lives. This conversation invites us to consider: How can we embrace technological progress without losing the qualities that make our experiences deeply human? In this episode: What it means to cultivate human presence Human presence versus technological processes The difference between technical skill and genuine presence Where technology and human connection intersect When technology enhances the human experience When technical processes begin to interfere with presence The importance of awareness and intentional choice Presence within music, creativity, and performance Finding balance between technology and humanity Staying connected to ourselves and others in a technological world Question for you: When does technology enhance your ability to be present, and when does it get in the way? Share your thoughts in the comments. About Jung at Harp Hosted by Kathleen Wiley , Jungian Psychoanalyst and harpist, and Deborah Henson-Conant , Grammy-nominated harpist, composer, performer, educator, and creativity mentor. Together they explore music, psychology, creativity, and life through weekly-ish conversations for discovery. Join them most Fridays around 9:15-ish EST at JungAtHarp.com . #JungAtHarp #HumanPresence #Psychology #Creativity #Technology #HumanConnection #Mindfulness #Music #Harp #CarlJung #SelfAwareness #PersonalGrowth

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  Episode #223

  [223] Jung at Harp #223 Why "Perfect" is Killing Your Music

  Aug 18, 202628 minS1

  Jung at Harp – Episode 223 Why "Perfect" is Killing Your Music Many harpists believe they need to master every note, technique, and piece perfectly before they are ready to share their music with others. But what if the pursuit of perfection is actually keeping you from making music? In Episode 223 of Jung at Harp , Kathleen Wiley and Deborah Henson-Conant explore how the pressure to play perfectly can create a constant feeling of "I'm not good enough yet." Instead of experiencing music as a form of self-expression, we can become focused on avoiding mistakes, following the rules, and trying to sound like we think we are supposed to sound. This episode invites us to look beyond perfection and discover what becomes possible when we allow ourselves to play, explore, experiment, and express ourselves with the skills we have right now. In this episode: Why the pursuit of perfection can keep musicians stuck The difference between playing correctly and expressing yourself How the fear of mistakes affects creativity Why you don't have to be "good enough" before sharing your music Finding beauty in simplicity Moving from judgment to curiosity How limitations can become opportunities for creativity Giving yourself permission to discover your own musical voice Your music doesn't have to be perfect to be meaningful. Sometimes the most powerful music comes when we stop asking, "Did I play that perfectly?" and start asking, "What can I express with what I have right now?" Question for you: Has the pursuit of perfection ever stopped you from playing or sharing your music? What would change if you gave yourself permission to simply explore? About Jung at Harp Jung at Harp brings together Jungian psychology, music, creativity, and the human experience through conversations between Kathleen Wiley and Deborah Henson-Conant. Each episode explores questions that invite us to look deeper, think differently, and discover new possibilities in ourselves and our creative lives. #JungAtHarp #Harp #Harpist #Music #Creativity #SelfExpression #Perfectionism #MusicEducation #CreativeFreedom #PersonalGrowth

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  Episode #222

  [222] Jung at Harp #222 - When to Find a Bigger Box?

  Jul 24, 202631 minS1

  Why Listen? How do we know when we've outgrown the "box" we're living in? Are our limitations keeping us stuck—or are they the very conditions that make creativity, growth, and self-expression possible? And what if the answer isn't to escape the box, but to discover a bigger one? In this episode of Jung at Harp , Jungian Psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley and Grammy-nominated composer and performer Deborah Henson-Conant explore the surprising relationship between limitations, creativity, and human potential. Together, they ask what it means to recognize the invisible boxes we live within and how expanding our perspective can transform the way we learn, create, and relate to ourselves and others. Through stories from music, education, and everyday life, Kathleen and Deborah examine the difference between limitations and conditions, the power of teaching principles instead of rigid rules, and why true learning begins when we move beyond perfectionism into curiosity and exploration. They also reflect on the importance of understanding the "box" someone else is in before trying to help them grow beyond it. Join two harp players—Jungian Psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley and composer/performer Deborah Henson-Conant—for another conversation where music, psychology, and everyday life come together in unexpected ways. Questions explored include: What does it mean to be "in a box"? How do we know when it's time to find a bigger one? Are limitations obstacles—or opportunities for creativity? What's the difference between limitations and conditions? Why is understanding someone else's perspective essential for teaching and growth? How can simplicity lead to deeper self-expression? What happens when we focus on principles instead of perfection? Topics explored include: Psychological limitations and expanding consciousness Creativity within constraints Human potential and authentic self-expression Learning through experience Music education and creative practice Perfectionism versus exploration Empathy, teaching, and perspective The beauty of simplicity Join us for another conversation of discovery where music becomes a doorway into psychology, imagination, and deeper understanding. JungAtHarp.com

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  Episode #221

  [221] Jung at Harp_#221 Supposed there is an order that supersede perfectionism

  Jul 16, 202639 minS1

  Why Listen? Is perfection truly the highest standard we should strive for—or is there a deeper order beyond perfection that allows us to fully become who we are? How do perfectionistic patterns shape the way we live, create, and connect with ourselves and others? In this episode of Jung at Harp , Jungian Psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley and Grammy-nominated composer and performer Deborah Henson-Conant explore the ways perfectionism can limit our growth and keep us from experiencing the fullness of our true Self. They reflect on the difference between chasing an ideal of perfection and embracing the wholeness that already exists within us. Through conversation, reflection, and curiosity, Kathleen and Deborah examine how perfectionism appears in creativity, relationships, work, and personal identity. They explore the possibility that there is a greater order—one that does not require us to be flawless, but invites us to live in alignment with our authentic nature. Join two harp players—Jungian Psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley and composer/performer Deborah Henson-Conant—for another conversation where music, psychology, and everyday life come together in unexpected ways. Questions explored include: Where do perfectionistic patterns show up in our lives? How does perfectionism prevent us from living fully? What is the difference between perfection and wholeness? How can we move beyond the need to "get everything right"? What does it mean to trust the greater order of our true Self? How can embracing our wholeness transform creativity and self-expression? Topics explored include: Perfectionism and personal growth The psychology of the true Self Wholeness vs. the pursuit of perfection Creativity and authenticity Self-acceptance and inner transformation Living in alignment with a deeper order Join us for another conversation of discovery where music becomes a doorway into psychology, imagination, and deeper understanding. JungAtHarp.com

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  Episode #220

  [220] Jung at Harp #220 Music: Presentation or Participation?

  Jul 3, 202645 minS1

  Why Listen? Is music meant to be a polished presentation in front of an audience—or a shared experience of participation, connection, and play? Where do these two ways of thinking about music come from, and how do they shape the way we learn, perform, and experience sound? In this episode of Jung at Harp , Jungian Psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley and Grammy-nominated composer and performer Deborah Henson-Conant explore the tension between performance as perfection and music as participation. They look at how cultural expectations, training systems, and personal psychology influence whether we approach music as something to "get right" or something to enter into together. Through conversation, reflection, and curiosity, Kathleen and Deborah examine how these paradigms affect creativity, confidence, and joy in making music. They explore what is lost—and what is gained—depending on whether music becomes a presentation or a participatory experience, and how shifting that perspective can open new space for expression and connection. Join two harp players—Jungian Psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley and composer/performer Deborah Henson-Conant—for another conversation where music, psychology, and everyday life come together in unexpected ways. Questions explored include: Is music about presentation or participation? Where do our ideas of "perfect performance" come from? How does audience expectation shape musical expression? What changes when music becomes collaborative instead of evaluative? Can mistakes become part of musical connection? How do we reconnect with joy in making music? Topics explored include: Performance anxiety and perfectionism Music education and cultural expectations Improvisation and collaboration Psychology of performance Creativity and self-expression Music as connection vs. display Join us for another conversation of discovery where music becomes a doorway into psychology, imagination, and deeper understanding. JungAtHarp.com

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