Episode #11
Love Them Where They’re At: The Leadership Lesson From Near-Death
Most people fail at entrepreneurship for one simple reason: they jump in without doing the research, building the right support, or understanding how money really works. Dr. Debra sits down with entrepreneur Holly Porter to break down what it actually takes to start smart, stay resilient, and build something that lasts. After surviving a 70-day hospital stay, multiple intubations, and a near-death experience, Holly’s entire view of business, purpose, and success changed. She shares how that shift led her to launch the International Retreat Association , write her most meaningful book, and build a life rooted in multiple streams of income, intuition, and purpose-driven work. Holly also explains why she believes the retreat industry is exploding, why in-person community still matters in an AI-heavy world, and how her new association is designed to give retreat leaders, venues, and service providers the standards, support, and networking they have been missing. If you’re thinking about starting a business, scaling one, or turning a calling into something real, this conversation gives you the practical advice and the deeper reset behind it. All of Holly's links can be found here: linktr.ee/hollyporter Learn more about MenHealing at www.menhealing.org
