Just Like Nana

Dive into the journey of Just Like Nana, a podcast passionately exploring ancestral trauma, generational healing, and the profound ways our family's past shapes our present mental and holistic health. Amie Penny Sayler shares captivating, research-based fiction stories of her grandmothers' lives and features insightful interviews with leading mental health and wellness practitioners. Learn how to break cycles of trauma passed down through generations, understand family dynamics, and cultivate a regulated nervous system. Ground yourself in your history, honor your ancestors, and find your own path to trauma healing. New episodes every Friday. Learn more at https://justlikenana.com/

Just Like Nana is a health podcast hosted by Amie Penny Sayler, with 31 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Amie Penny Sayler hosts Just Like Nana, a health show with 31 episodes published.

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  Episode #30

  Dionne Ford

  Aug 14, 202633 min

  Author Dionne Ford, discusses her memoir, Go Back and Get It . She addresses the sacred value of the family archive, what it looks like to cultivate a daily ancestral practice, and the undeniable necessity of reparations to heal the wealth and education gaps woven into American society. About Dionne Ford Dionne Ford is author of the memoir ‘Go Back and Get It’, which was a 2024 finalist for the Hurston Wright Foundation Legacy Award and co-editor of the anthology Slavery's Descendants: Shared Legacies of Race and Reconciliation. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Virginia Quarterly Review, LitHub, The Boston Globe, New Jersey Monthly, Rumpus and Ebony among other publications and won awards from the the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Association of Black Journalists and the Newswomen's Club of New York. Most recently, she received a 2026 Individual Artist Finalist award from the New Jersey State Council on the Arts. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Reclaim Ownership of Your Family Archive: You do not need to wait for outside authorities or a formal stamp of approval to tell you who you are. Your family history and internal architecture carry a sacred authority that is contained within you. Value the Sacredness of Oral Storytelling: Long before documentation existed, human beings preserved their legacies through oral histories. Honoring the stories passed down by a grandparent—exactly as they were told—is a vital, non-negotiable step in intergenerational healing. Engage in Embodied Ancestral Connections: Connecting with your lineage can be a deeply visceral, physical experience. Cultivating mindful habits, creating a personal altar, or engaging in ancestral physical arts like Capoeira bridges generation gaps and embodies the strength of those who came before you. Commit to a Daily Relational Ritual: Staying connected to your ancestors doesn't have to be a rigid, distant concept. Implementing a simple morning devotional or checking in with your lineage throughout the day keeps their memory alive and treats them like a close, accessible friend. Acknowledge the Ripple Effect of Reparations: Reparations are a fully tangible, executable necessity to address systemic wealth gaps, property tax structures, and education inequities. Repairing a historical wrong does not just benefit the harmed party; it actively heals and elevates the justice of the entire society. Resources https://www.aamchealthjustice.org/news/research/reparations https://www.ivoryinnovations.org/post/reparations https://www.ywcastpaul.org/history-of-the-rondo-neighborhood/ https://www.ictj.org/reparations https://www.tonimorrisonsociety.org/ https://www.abada.org/capoeira-history/ Connect with Dionne Website: https://www.dionneford.com/ Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.com Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website . A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective . Theme music by Carter Penny.

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  Episode #29

  Amy Vincze

  Aug 7, 202634 min

  Amy Vincze, EFT Tapping coach and creator of the Soar with Tapping app, discusses the benefits of an EFT Tapping practice and how it can help heal ancestral trauma. Amy also explains the importance of engaging with uncomfortable emotions, instead of always forcing a focus on the positive. About Amy Vincze Amy Vincze has been a dedicated professional in the health and wellness industry for over 20 years. She's a certified tapping coach and has been for more than 16 years. She has witnessed profound transformations both in her own life and in the lives of her clients as the founder of the Soar with Tapping App, Amy is on a mission to make the life-changing benefits of tapping accessible to everyone . In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Target the Root Cause Over the Symptom: Treating symptoms like overeating or procrastination can be like placing a temporary band-aid over a gushing wound. True, permanent healing requires moving past surface symptoms and engaging directly with the originating core belief systems. Understand the 3-in-1 Power of EFT: Tapping combines physical percussion on ancient energy meridians (like acupuncture without needles) with cognitive reflection and deep somatic grounding to bring your mind (which often focuses on the past or the future) completely into a safe, present moment. Down-Regulate the Amygdala 43% Faster: When your subconscious tracks a perceived threat, your brain triggers a rapid surge of cortisol. Percussive tapping acts as a somatic override, signaling your inner guard dog to stand down and clearing stress hormones 43% faster than doing nothing at all. Access Ancestral Portals for Lineage Healing: Deep structural wounds—such as rigid, inherited programming about cultural expectations and gender roles—can visceralize in your body. Somatic tapping helps open an energetic portal to resolve these blocks, shifting the lineage pattern for yourself, your children, and the ancestors who came before you. Lean Intensely into Uncomfortable Emotions: You cannot bypass heavy states by rushing toward shiny, fake positivity. True emotional processing demands that you safely sit with emotions for roughly 90 seconds, acknowledging and feeling them until the intensity drops enough for your brain to accept a positive pivot. Resources What is EFT Tapping?: https://eftinternational.org/discover-eft-tapping/what-is-eft-tapping/ Connect with Amy Vincze Website: https://soarwithtapping.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soarwithtapping/ App on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.soarwithtapping&pli=1 App on the App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/soar-with-tapping/id6449354621 Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.com Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website . A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective . Theme music by Carter Penny.

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  Episode #28

  Elizabeth Rosner

  Jul 31, 202639 min

  Author and teacher Elizabeth Rosner discusses the importance of naming and acknowledging intergenerational trauma before moving towards healing. Elizabeth touches on the cultural understanding of intergenerational trauma, the limitations of scientific understanding, the importance of personal and collective histories, and more. About Elizabeth Rosner Elizabeth Rosner is an author and teacher whose work focuses on the redemptive power of storytelling and deep listening. Her six books have been translated into twelve languages and have received literary prizes in the US and abroad. Her most recent book, Third Ear: Reflections on the Art and Science of Listening, blends personal stories of growing up in a multilingual household with multidisciplinary research about sound and silence in the natural world. Her previous book, Survivor Cafe: The Legacy of Trauma and the Labyrinth of Memory, was a finalist for a National Jewish Book Award and was named among the best books of 2017 by the San Francisco Chronicle. Elizabeth travels widely to lecture and lead workshops internationally; her teaching carries forward a message of perseverance and tenacious optimism. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Validate the Biological Reality of Transferred Trauma: Intergenerational trauma is a concrete transmission where an ancestral injury, atrocity, or structural attack creates psychological consequences and genetic adaptations passed down to children and grandchildren. Knowing this science validates that you are not crazy for carrying fear from events that occurred before you were born. Reclaim the Ancient Wisdom of Lineage: While Western science is just beginning to understand the explicit mechanisms of epigenetics, indigenous cultures have always held the ancient understanding that we must look backward seven generations and forward seven generations when navigating our life purpose and actions. Embrace the Power of Deep Naming: True emotional and ancestral transformation cannot happen if we rush past the pain to reach a forced state of healing. We must dedicate time, energy, and meticulous attention to looking at, acknowledging, and naming our personal and collective histories to break the grip of secrecy and denial. Uncover the Multi-Generational Gifts of Resilience: Your ancestral inheritance is not solely defined by anguish and trauma loops; it also carries beautiful, luminous gifts. Reclaiming your lineage means actively identifying and savoring the creative talents, love of beauty, multilingual voices, and fierce courage passed down by those who came before you. Exercise Your Sovereign Capacity to Change: Although we possess no control over the exact traumatic history or genetic blueprint we are given, we hold absolute sovereignty over what we choose to do with it. By practicing deep listening and meeting ourselves honestly, we can actively rewrite our biological programming and choose our own changes Resources Mentioned Elizabeth’s Books: https://elizabethrosner.com/books/ Connect with Elizabeth Website: https://www.elizabethrosner.com/index.html Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elizrosner/ Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/61096.Elizabeth_Rosner Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.com Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website . A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective . Theme music by Carter Penny.

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  Episode #27

  Dr. Jenn Veilleux

  Jul 24, 202640 min

  In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Jenn Veilleux, clinical psychologist and professor of psychological science, where they discuss the science of emotions. Together, they explore why we are so fundamentally afraid of negative emotions, how contrast avoidance blocks us from tasting joy, and a highly actionable framework to accurately interpret the hidden messages your body is trying to send you. About Dr. Jenn Veilleux Dr. Jenn Veilleux is a licensed clinical psychologist and a professor of psychological science at the University of Arkansas, where she specializes in emotions, emotion regulation, and personality. In addition to training graduate students in the art of psychotherapy, Dr. Veilleux operates a private practice helping adults and couples transform their relationships with their internal states. As a dedicated emotion scientist, she bridges strict empirical research with practical clinical application to help individuals understand their minds and bodies more gracefully. She is also the author of an upcoming book designed to clearly demystify the psychological science behind emotion regulation, which will be fully linked in our resources below. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Differentiate Emotions from Moods: Scientifically, emotions are intense, transient, wave-like states triggered by a specific event that have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Moods, by contrast, are longer-lasting, lower-intensity states that lack a target or explicit starting trigger. Receive Emotions as Vital Messages: Emotions are not random disturbances; they are functional communication tools designed to prepare your physical body for action, provide information about your social environment, and facilitate connection with others. Confront the Trap of Contrast Avoidance: Master suppressors often actively block intense positive emotions. This tendency is driven by a fear of the sudden emotional drop that might follow a peak experience, causing individuals to stay safely anchored in a low level of anxiety instead. Understand the Rebound Cost of Suppression: Pushing an emotional wave down doesn't make it disappear. Because emotions are determined to be received, hiding from them temporarily causes them to return with amplified intensity, much like the avalanche of letters invading Harry Potter's living room. Connect with Dr. Jenn Veilleux Website: https://www.jenncveilleux.com/ Book: https://www.jenncveilleux.com/book LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenn-veilleux-3270962a8 Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.com Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website . A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective . Theme music by Carter Penny.

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  Episode #26

  Lisa Lacy

  Jul 17, 202636 min

  In this episode of Just Like Nana , host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Lisa Lacy, author and trauma educator, where they discuss the role of storytelling in healing and why self-trust is key to healing ancestral trauma. Together, they explore why some healing modalities may work for you and others won't, and the importance of getting in touch with your body to feel safe and grounded. About Lisa Lisa Lacy is a writer, trauma educator, and author of the upcoming memoir “Notes From a Certified Madwoman” and its companion “Field Guide: The Psychology of Performance™️”. After more than three decades in corporate education, healthcare consulting, performance, and storytelling, Lisa now speaks and writes about addiction, psychosis, trauma, nervous systems, identity masking, reinvention, and the hidden realities of high functioning survival in women. Drawing from lived experience, recovery, and years teaching trauma-informed emotional intelligence in addiction recovery centers across Georgia, Lisa creates conversations that are psychologically informed without sounding clinical, emotionally honest, unexpectedly funny, and deeply human. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: You can physiologically inherit fear, anxiety, and behavioral patterns from your ancestral line without ever experiencing the original event yourself. Recognizing that what you are carrying isn't fully yours means you are not losing your mind—it is real science. Healing is not a one-size-fits-all journey. If traditional talk therapies leave you blaming yourself, expand your toolbox by exploring somatic work, hypnosis, cognitive processing, or peer support groups until you find what clicks for your unique design. Trauma survivors often dissociate, disconnecting completely from their physical bodies to survive. Ground yourself instantly by releasing a big sigh out—which safely down-regulates anxiety—and dropping into your chest space to find your heartbeat. Even if an ancestor passed away long before you were born, you can actively form a relationship with their memory. Channeling their history into purpose—such as transforming an ancestral story of abuse into community protection—honors their legacy and breaks the cycle. Forcing forgiveness can become a psychological trap. Opt instead for an objective human understanding of what limited tools your ancestors had, while taking radical accountability for your own behaviors and creating your own internal closure. Resources Mentioned It Didn’t Start with You by Mark Wolynn: https://markwolynn.com/it-didnt-start-with-you/ Dolores Cannon: https://dolorescannon.com/ Multipotentialite Ted Talk by Emilie Wapnik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZdcB6bjI8 Connect with Lisa Lacy Website: https://www.lisalacy.com/about-1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisalacycalm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisa_lacy_writes/ Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.com Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website . A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective . Theme music by Carter Penny.

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