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Kirkwood and Dunn is a sports podcast hosted by Trent McGee, with 166 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Trent McGee hosts Kirkwood and Dunn, a sports show with 166 episodes published.

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  Episode #162

  Josh Hoover Road Test at Rutgers, KJ Duff Scouting Report & Bryant Haines Mike Shanahan Departure Watch 2026

  Oct 1, 20261h 18mS2

  Josh Hoover's first road test of the season is at Rutgers — and his home/away splits from TCU are worth flagging before Indiana heads to Piscataway. Tim's take: Rutgers' defense is so bad this is essentially a get-right game. Trent wants a quicker start, Nick Marsh early, and self-inflicted wounds cleaned up before Lincoln. KJ Duff is the best receiver Indiana faces until Jeremiah Smith — 29 catches, 550 yards, 7 touchdowns on a terrible team where everyone knows the ball is going to him. Trent and Tim go through every NFL-caliber receiver Indiana has faced in 2024 and 2025 and how Bryant Haines' zone scheme creates opportunities even against elite coverage. That's What Cig Said is packed — Cig goes back through the Northwestern tape, breaks down RPO decision making, right tackle struggles, and the goal line fourth and one. He's more positive on the right tackle after film but the tight end room is still his most consistent press conference concern. AJ Harris addressed — Jamari Sharpe has been in his role for more than one week. Breaking injury report: Turbo Richard probable, Ro Hardy probable, AJ Harris questionable, Sean Cuono questionable, Kobe Martin out. Then the conversation Indiana fans don't want to have: which jobs are Bryant Haines and Mike Shanahan waiting for? Florida State is a yes for both. North Carolina splits them. Michigan State should have called Haines. Iowa would be Indiana's nightmare. And Trent makes a sleeper pick Tim refuses to accept. Big Ten power rankings: Indiana one, Ohio State two, Iowa and Oregon tied for third, Nebraska the biggest riser, Penn State drops seven spots, Maryland at the bottom after losing 54-3 to UCLA. Follow Tim @tbhoosiers and Trent @STMcGee. Find us everywhere @KirkwoodandDunn. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

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  Episode #161

  Lee Beebe Jr. Vindicated, Indiana Northwestern Breakdown & SEC vs Big Ten Week 4 Reaction 2026

  Sep 27, 20261h 10mS2

  Tim is getting Pearl Harbored to open the show. Lee Beebe Jr. had 203 yards, 8.5 yards per carry, a 70-yard run, and a key touchdown against Northwestern — and Tim's PR team issued an official statement of "good game, no further questions." Trent has questions. Wayne Knight came back from unsubscribing to leave a comment. The Lee Beebe stands want an apology. Tim is not giving one. Then the full Northwestern breakdown: Chip Kelly put Bryant Haines in a blender in the second half — the first time Trent has ever felt genuinely stressed watching a Haines defense — and the reason isn't scheme, it's personnel. The secondary is not synchronized. Zone coverage hand-offs are breaking down. Toby Osinsami is getting exposed. Josh Hoover and Nick Marsh were not on the same page all night, and Tim makes the case it's mechanics not injury — Hoover doesn't have Fernando Mendoza's arm power off platform and when he's rushing RPO reads the ball sails. Cig was visibly surly at the press conference, chomping gum hard, defending players publicly while pointing the finger internally — classic Nick Saban. He'd rather be the one telling the team they're not good enough than let the outside world do it. Bones Jones is being asked to play the Mike linebacker and isn't a sure tackler in space. Amari Farrell walked a receiver wide open. Preston Zachman is still a concern. Jaylen Bell needs to become the star corner so Jamari Sharpe can move back to his natural role. Riley Nowakowski is not walking through that door and the tight end blocking remains a real problem on the goal line. Then it's the rest of college football — the SEC is better than the Big Ten this year and Trent says it out loud. Kamario Taylor is the Heisman frontrunner. Florida looks excellent. Tim won his Iowa parlay. USC is cooked. Lincoln Riley is not a good head coach. And Trent makes the case Oregon might actually be better with Dylan Raiola than Dante Moore. Follow Tim @tbhoosiers and Trent @STMcGee. Find us everywhere @KirkwoodandDunn. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

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  Episode #160

  Kellan Wyatt Stephen Daley Eligible, Northwestern Preview & Big Ten Power Rankings Week 4

  Sep 24, 20261h 9mS2

  Breaking news before the podcast even starts — Kellan Wyatt and Stephen Daley have been granted temporary eligibility and are playing Friday night. The NCAA will fight it but the case probably won't be scheduled until after the season. Indiana gets their two best pass rushers back just as Big Ten play begins and Tim thinks this defense just went from very good to potentially one of the best in the country. Then Trent spends the first ten minutes correcting Tim's Northwestern take. Tim compared them to North Texas. Trent listened to the West Lot Pirates Northwestern podcast, did his homework, and is here with receipts: Aiden Chiles has had his two best career games against Cignetti teams, Chip Kelly ran an Oregon-style offense at Ohio State in 2024, Joseph Himon II is a real threat out of the backfield, and this is not Howard. That's What Cig Said plays live — Brock Schott moves to third in tight end snaps but his blocking needs work, AJ Harris gets a wink from Cig, and the tight end group remains his most consistent press conference concern. Three advanced stat charts are making the rounds — the Josh Hoover QB map (top of the country in EPA per dropback), the net PPA vs talent chart (Indiana doing more with less than almost anyone), and the offensive vs defensive efficiency chart (Indiana in the elite and balanced quadrant). Tim explains all three in plain English. Josh Hoover has a perfect quarterback rating targeting Charlie Becker. Best duo in the sport. Tim has Indiana 34-13. Trent has 56-6 and thinks Northwestern's staff already has one eye on Penn State. Player of the game: Turbo Richard (Tim) vs the fans (Trent). Big Ten power rankings updated — Trent moves Northwestern to tied for sixth and immediately uses it to argue Indiana should be number one if they win. Tim is not buying it. Khalil Benson rated highest rookie on offense in week two by PFF. Caleb Williams' hamstring. Oregon USC is the game Trent forgot on Bookstore Brew — confirmed, roasted, moving on. Follow Tim @tbhoosiers and Trent @STMcGee. Find us everywhere @KirkwoodandDunn. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

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  Episode #159

  Cignetti Bans Josh Hoover Talk, Indiana 3-0 Western Kentucky Reaction & Northwestern Big Ten Opener

  Sep 20, 20261h 5mS2

  Curt Cignetti said it in his postgame interview — stop talking about the quarterback. Two straight shutouts. A receiver who might be in the Heisman conversation. Indiana minus 500 to make the college football playoff. And everyone's focused on the quarterback. Not today. Trent and Tim are honoring Cig's request — his name gets bleeped every time it comes up. New segment debut — Would You Take It Back? Tim is apologizing for nothing. His halftime tweet was written with half the information and every criticism in it is being delivered to players in film right now. Trent's point: box score stats don't tell you what you saw with your eyeballs. Both things can be true at the same time. Nick Marsh vindication: Yogi Roth confirmed on NBC that Marsh missed the first drive due to practice effort — exactly what Kirkwood and Dunn said and got called irresponsible for. Don Fischer had to bring it up before the media asked. Victory lap fully earned. Marsh then played exactly like a Cignetti receiver should. Western Kentucky breakdown: the second half defense was elite, Bryant Haines dialed up Big Ten-ready blitzes, Byron Baldwin Jr. was outstanding, and two straight shutouts are real. The secondary concern is real too — same concern going into Oregon last year, and that secondary played their best game of the season. Cig called all three non-conference games "exhibition games" in his postgame interview — Trent got called a buffoon for saying the same thing on Wednesday. Everything's coming up Kirkwood and Dunn. Northwestern is Friday night. Kellan Wyatt and Stephen Daley could be back. Big Ten play starts now. Follow Tim @tbhoosiers and Trent @STMcGee. Find us everywhere @KirkwoodandDunn. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

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  Episode #158

  Josh Hoover Development Concerns, Cignetti Press Conference Reaction & Western Kentucky Preview 2026

  Sep 17, 20261h 11mS2

  Six of eleven against Howard, two under throws, choosing Davion Chandler deep over Nick Marsh open in the middle — the fanbase is noticing things. Tim isn't worried: every receiver was open on every play against Howard and Hoover was experimenting. Trent adds nuance: the gunslinger tendency to go for the window above when the easy throw is right there is exactly what Cig is coaching out of him. Verdict: over-analysis of an under-competitive opponent. Then That's What Cig Said plays his midweek press conference clips live for Tim — what Cig said about Hoover's development and where he's being pushed to improve. Tim's read: Cig is quietly thrilled about what he has. Nick Marsh situation gets clarity — Kirkwood and Dunn's most-listened episode ever was directionally correct but technically wrong. He missed the first drive, not the whole quarter. The point still stands. Trent's theory: Josh Hoover was off rhythm because Marsh's routes were practiced and Tyler Morris ran them differently. Western Kentucky preview: Chad Helton's Hilltoppers, Tim has 63-7, Trent has 71-19, scoregami incoming. Breaking news mid-episode: Sam Leavitt listed as doubtful for Ole Miss — is it Lane Kiffin mind games? And the big show announcement: the Kirkwood and Dunn merch store is live — heavy tees, Bison Saturdays crew necks, hats, coffee mugs, and the "Intellectually Interesting, Emotionally Repulsed" mug that started in the comment section. Follow Tim @tbhoosiers and Trent @STMcGee. Find us everywhere @KirkwoodandDunn. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

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