Lending Leadership

Welcome to Lending Leadership: the podcast designed for mortgage loan originators who are looking to elevate their careers and gain a competitive edge in the industry. Whether you're a seasoned professional or an aspiring loan officer, this podcast will have you clear to close with valuable insights, expert advice, and jaw-dropping stories from the cutting edge of the mortgage business. Lending Leadership is two powerful shows in one, alternating every week between The Mortgage Pros and The Creative Brief. In The Mortgage Pros, you’ll be guided by the three dynamic partners of HMA Mortgage—Tom Mills, Dave Holland, and Robert Fillyaw—through the real, unfiltered truth about the mortgage industry. With decades of combined experience and close to a million dollars spent on professional coaching (yes, you read that right), our hosts are ready to share their wealth of knowledge and hard-earned wisdom and maybe even reveal a few facepalm-worthy moments that loan officers will not want to miss. In The Creative Brief, we’ll take a step back from the front lines of the mortgage world and show you results-driven marketing processes that every loan officer will want to use on a daily basis. Hosted by Corrine Bibb, VP of Marketing and Rachael Tresch, Director of Brand and Media Relations at HMA Mortgage, this segment is all about bringing a fresh, dynamic perspective to the world of mortgage marketing. You’ll learn the secrets of effective personal branding, social media marketing, and tips and tricks on how to stand out from the competition. Together, Lending Leadership is more than just a podcast; it's a community of mortgage professionals committed to continuous improvement and excellence. Join us each week as we share pre-approved advice and wisdom, explore the mortgage industry's ins and outs, and empower you to achieve career-defining success. In each episode of the podcast, you can expect to find: Fresh Perspectives and Branding Mastery: Our hosts offer unique insights into the mortgage industry, providing a well-rounded view of what it takes to succeed. Learn the secrets of effective branding and marketing from industry experts who share strategies for building a strong brand, creating compelling marketing campaigns, and leveraging digital tools to reach your target audience. Empowering Leadership: Discover what it means to be a strong leader in the mortgage industry. We’ll discuss leadership styles, team management, and creating a work environment that fosters creativity, collaboration, and success. You can expect candid conversations about the challenges you’ll face and what the heck you can do to overcome them. Business Growth Strategies and Navigating Operations: Growing your mortgage business requires a blend of smart marketing, efficient operations, and continuous learning. Our hosts and guests share practical tips and strategies to help you expand your client base, fine-tune your operations, and enhance your overall business performance. Episodes will break down intricate steps and regulations in the mortgage process, offering insights into streamlining operations, ensuring compliance, and delivering exceptional service. Marketing, Tech Trends, and Building Strong Partnerships: Stay ahead of the curve with the latest marketing trends and new tech in the mortgage industry. Learn how to leverage digital marketing, social media, and innovative tools to attract more referral partners and clients. Stay competitive by honing the art of building and maintaining strong relationships with real estate agents, financial advisors, and other key players in the industry. So Lending Leaders, tune in, subscribe, and become a part of the Lending Leadership community. Let’s make the mortgage industry better, one laugh, one lesson, and one episode at a time.

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  Episode #95

  Five Doors Podcasts Open for Your Business Growth and The Art of the Perfect Pitch

  Aug 12, 202638 minS1

  Welcome back to Lending Leadership: The Mortgage Pros, where we dive deep into the world of mortgage, real estate marketing, and recruiting through candid conversations and practical advice. On today’s episode, we welcomed Sara Lohse, founder of Branded Media, podcast host, strategist, producer, and author. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in launching, guesting on, or optimizing their podcast presence—especially in a world flooded with AI-generated pitches and surface-level outreach. Sara joins us to unpack the right and wrong ways to pitch yourself for podcast guest spots, the real purpose behind podcasting beyond vanity metrics, and how to maximize the connections and impact you make both as a guest and a host. We tackled everything from the basics of guesting, to call-to-action strategies, to why your microphone etiquette matters, and ways to leverage each episode far beyond its initial post date. We also had some real talk on the AI invasion—why relying on bots for outreach is getting worse, and why authentic human connection is still the thing that sets you apart, both for growing your influence and closing actual business. Key takeaways: Put Audience Value Ahead of Your Bio As podcast hosts, our obligation is to our listeners, not the guests. When pitching yourself for podcasts, focus less on your accomplishments and more on exactly what value you can bring to the show’s audience. Personalize pitches by referencing the show’s goals and explaining how your expertise directly serves their listeners 00:00. Start with Your "Why" and a Real Call to Action Guesting is a great entry point into podcasting, but don’t overlook the homework. Know why you want to be on a specific show and have a clear, audience-oriented call to action something that gives rather than asks, like a free resource, newsletter signup, or helpful guide. Don’t jump straight to promoting your product or services 06:01. Lead with Generosity and Authenticity Service-oriented industries like mortgage and real estate are built on relationships. Bring a spirit of giving when you show up, offer value, provide free resources, and focus on genuine connection. Transactional, self-centered pitches or AI-generated messages only alienate hosts and their audiences 09:14. Effort Compounds Preparation and Follow-Up Matter Invest in a decent mic, record in a quiet space, and respect the production value of shows you appear on. But don’t stop there: capitalize on each appearance by sharing your episode, converting it into blogs and social media snippets, and nurturing your connection with hosts and their networks. True momentum in podcasting comes from effort before, during, and after you’re on air 11:53. Success Isn’t Just Numbers Focus on Connection and Long-Term Impact Podcasting isn’t about collecting downloads like trophies; it’s about opening doors: building authority, cultivating relationships, increasing conversions through touchpoints, gaining longevity for your ideas, and reaching targeted audiences. The average episode gets 27 downloads in its first week. Imagine those people in your living room, not a stadium. Changing your perspective on what “success” looks like can energize your strategy and long-term business impact 16:01. Whether you’re just curious about starting a podcast, looking to guest more effectively, or want to overhaul how you pitch yourself, today’s deep dive with Sara Lohse is packed with actionable insights you can put to use right away. And if you want to guest on Lending Leadership, take Sara’s advice: craft a thoughtful pitch, and we just might read it!

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  Episode #92

  The Future of Mortgage Jobs: Anonymous Matching and Data-Driven Recruiting with Mloop

  Jul 22, 202637 minS1

  Welcome back to Lending Leadership: The Creative Brief! This week, we’re excited to unpack a rapidly evolving topic within the mortgage industry: recruiting. Our industry has seen the same old song and dance for decades: recruiters calling, loan officers dodging and blocking, and both sides often left feeling frustrated or dissatisfied. Today, though, we’re diving into a fresh, tech-driven approach that aims to change all of that. We’re joined by Ellen Duncan, founder of mLoop, a platform some are calling “the Match.com or Tinder for mortgage recruiting.” Ellen’s background isn’t rooted in recruiting, but rather in marketing and strategic growth, giving her a distinct outsider’s perspective on a dated system. mLoop brings innovation, anonymity, and a data-driven two-way matching system to connect loan officers and lenders in a way that feels more personal, private, and efficient. Throughout our conversation, we look at the pain points in traditional mortgage recruiting, the “aha” moments that inspired mLoop’s design, real-world feedback, changing industry mindsets, and the surprising data that’s starting to emerge as this new model gains traction. Here are five key takeaways from our discussion: Innovation in Mortgage Recruiting: Traditional mortgage recruiting has long been plagued by inefficiency and awkwardness. Most of us know the drill: cold calls, dodged calls, and a lack of transparency on both sides. Ellen’s mLoop flips the process by making it private, anonymous, and more like a true matching platform giving loan officers and lenders a space to safely explore new opportunities without fear or pressure (00:34). The Power of Anonymity and Exclusivity: One of mLoop’s core innovations is its dual-sided anonymity. Both loan officers and lenders have their identities protected until there’s real interest helping to challenge preconceived notions and biases associated with company names or prior reputations. The exclusivity of only having three active match conversations at a time (drawn from social psychology and dating app models) means users are more motivated to take meaningful action rather than mindlessly swipe or ghost (14:09). Changing Perceptions and Fostered Openness: A striking insight from early mLoop data is that the professional “lines” dividing retail, broker, and IMB roles are blurring. More than 80% of loan officers show openness to switching between these categories, a surprise given longstanding industry assumptions about career paths and loyalty within certain “camps” (19:24). Key Drivers of Retention and Recruitment: Beyond compensation, the things that matter most to today’s originators are evolving. Culture, leadership style, hybrid work options, and innovative incentive or bonus structures frequently emerge as critical differentiators. Many leaders now prioritize matching candidates with the right “human connection” and internal values, not just skill sets or volume (23:44). The Importance of Continual Engagement: Recruiting shouldn’t end the day someone joins your company. We talk about the need for ongoing “re-recruitment,” checking in and making sure existing talent still feels seen, heard, and matched to the direction of your organization. mLoop’s data-driven approach could even help companies internally assess and strengthen their own retention strategies (30:05). Whether you’re a loan officer considering new horizons or a lender eager to think differently about talent acquisition, the future of recruiting is more dynamic and data-informed than ever. As we continue to seek the best fit for everyone on both sides of the table, innovation like Ellen’s is set to drive the industry into more human, equitable, and rewarding territory. Be sure to check out mLoop at mloop.co, and if you’re curious, create a profile here’s real value in simply seeing where you stand as the new world of mortgage recruiting unfolds! Rach & Rin

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  Episode #91

  How Authenticity and Social Media Drive Mortgage Growth with Dan Anderson

  Jul 15, 202644 minS1

  Welcome back to Lending Leadership: The Mortgage Pros, your go-to source for insights, inspiration, and strategies from the frontlines of the mortgage industry. In this special episode, we’re celebrating not only an amazing milestone—Dan Andersen’s two-year anniversary with HMA—but also his remarkable growth and influence within our organization and the wider lending community. Dan joins us once again to pull back the curtain on how social media, culture, and generosity have been true game-changers in his career journey. We cover everything from adapting to technological shifts and nurturing company culture to building a reputation through authenticity and service. Dan opens up about his rocky beginnings with social media, why he believes organic growth trumps cold calling, and the powerful impact of giving back through events like his charity golf outing. We also dig into what makes a lending organization truly lasting—and how the people you surround yourself with can propel you to new heights. If you’re ready to take your influence, production, and partnerships to the next level, this conversation with Dan Anderson is essential listening. Key takeaways: Authentic Social Media Presence Fuels Influence: Dan shares his journey from struggling with awkward videos to seeing social media as the modern, passive way to stay top-of-mind with clients and referral partners. He encourages all loan officers to jump on the wave of social media, reminding us that you only improve by putting yourself out there—even if you feel silly at first. His experience shows that organic, personal content often delivers more impact and reach than over-edited efforts, and sharing community partners' posts can pay dividends in trust and opportunity 16:33, 19:09, 21:32. Company Culture and Camaraderie Drive Individual and Team Growth: One of the central themes is the importance of a supportive, growth-focused workplace. We discuss how being surrounded by high-performing peers creates healthy competition—where iron sharpens iron—and lifts everyone’s game. Dan highlights how HMA’s leadership, commitment to innovation, and true camaraderie have pushed him and his colleagues to new levels of success 05:23, 33:02. Strategic Business Evolution Is Essential for Longevity: Dan describes why he made the move to HMA: it was about aligning with a company ready to invest in technology, adapt to seismic industry changes, and provide the scale and infrastructure needed for the next decade. This reinforces the point that organizations determined to future-proof their business are the places where talented originators can thrive 12:52, 15:07. Organic Relationships Outperform Quick Fixes in Referral Growth: We dig into the myth of “the next lead source” and why true, lasting referral partnerships are built on service, trust, and genuine mutual investment. Dan’s business growth has been largely organic, with agents and clients proactively referring him because of the value and connection he establishes rather than hard sells or gimmicks 20:50, 30:53. Giving Back and Community Engagement Deepen Business Impact: Dan’s annual charity golf outing for Cal’s Angels, which supports pediatric cancer, is a powerful example of how giving back not only helps the community but strengthens team and partner relationships. The passion behind these efforts, fueled by both individual and company commitment, has grown the event to an impressive $40,000+ fundraiser and created lifelong bonds with referral partners and clients 24:30, 27:01. This episode is a masterclass in blending authenticity, purposeful action, and a heart for service in today’s mortgage industry. Cheers to Dan Andersen, to the next two years, and to all the mortgage pros striving for excellence and genuine impact! Want to watch the Reel discussed in the episode? Find it here: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DZ-pxCXRLgJ/ Robert, Tom, and Dave (and Rach!)

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  Episode #90

  Winning Referral Partners: Actionable Steps for Loan Officers to Stand Out With Listing Agents

  Jul 8, 202644 minS1

  Welcome back to Lending Leadership: The Mortgage Pros! In this episode, we dive headfirst into a topic that’s as practical as it is powerful: how embracing proactive communication with listing agents can be your ultimate game-changer in the mortgage business. So often, we search high and low for the latest lead source or cutting-edge marketing tactic. But what if the biggest opportunity to grow our business has actually been sitting right in front of us all along? That’s what today’s conversation is about rediscovering the value of intentional, consistent outreach to listing agents as a lever for business growth. We’re joined by our very own Rachel Tresch, who steps out from behind the scenes for a candid, boots-on-the-ground discussion of what’s actually working in today’s ever-evolving real estate market. We lay out not only the “why” but the “how,” sharing stories, sample scripts, and real-world strategies to master the listing agent call and stand out from the competition. Key takeaways: Your Phone Is Your Most Valuable Tool: The conversation focused on how, despite the bells and whistles of new technology, the simple act of calling listing agents consistently is the top driver of business growth. Making these calls just a few hours a week can yield enormous results and is accessible to everyone in the business. Consistency Builds Trust and Differentiates You: A key theme that emerged was that trust is built through small promises kept. Setting and sticking to a regular day for updates, whether it’s every Tuesday, Wednesday, or another day, establishes trust and positions you as a proactive communicator who agents can rely on. Proactive Updates Prevent Problems: The discussion explored how providing proactive updates means agents and clients are never left guessing. Several points were raised, including that if an agent has to call you for an update, you’ve already failed at communication. Regular, thoughtful updates smooth transactions and can even surface new business opportunities. Every Call Is an Audition for Future Business: One concept discussed was that each interaction with a listing agent is an audition. By being thorough, personal, and reliable, you show agents you’re someone they’d want to work with again. Even if most agents already have a preferred lender, being top-of-mind as the “backup” can translate to new deals when things go awry elsewhere. Rejection Isn’t the End; It’s a Numbers Game: The conversation underscored that not every listing agent will become a referral partner, and that’s okay. The magic is in the consistency. Even if only a small percentage reciprocate, those relationships add up so keep making those calls, handle objections gracefully, and ask for future business with confidence. We’d love to know if you try this tactic and how it works for you. Leave us a comment and don’t forget to check out Lending Leadership: The Creative Brief for more actionable insights. Until next time, remember: sometimes the simplest actions, done consistently, make the biggest impact on your pipeline. Robert, Tom, and Dave (and Rach!) Timestamps: 00:00 Discussing powerful everyday technology 04:49 Hosts discuss their career achievements 06:56 Proactive business communication benefits 12:18 Discussing appraisal panels 15:23 Communicating with clients 17:22 Explaining the process and strategy 20:16 Managing transaction updates 24:41 Rescuing a troubled VA loan 26:36 Building referral partnerships 31:42 Handling Transaction Details 34:54 Overcoming client hesitations in lending 36:44 Handling Common Pushbacks 42:48 Importance of communication in sales 43:23 Podcast sign-off and engagement prompt

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  Episode #89

  Unlocking Sales Success with Facial Intelligence and Body Language in the Age of AI

  Jul 1, 202644 minS1

  In this episode, we dive deep into the crucial skills that truly set successful sales professionals, leaders, and marketers apart: people skills and communication intelligence in an age increasingly dominated by AI and technology. We’re thrilled to welcome Brian Galke, founder of Subtle Skills, facial intelligence expert, and one of the most dynamic communicators out there, to join us for a conversation that bridges tech and true human connection. We set the stage with reflections on how experiences, whether it’s a magic show or a corporate sales rally, are often less about the technical details and far more about the performance and connection built with the audience. As we all talk about AI, automation, and efficiency, we ask: what if the biggest opportunity isn’t communicating better with tech, but better with humans? Brian takes us through his fascinating story from introverted self-proclaimed tech nerd to one of the most sought-after experts on reading faces and decoding communication styles. Together, we explore how AI can be a powerful support tool, but the ability to read people, to listen, observe, and adapt—remains an irreplaceable leadership advantage. Here’s what we cover in this episode: Brian’s journey from IT trainer to facial intelligence expert and why communication is a learned skill, not an innate trait. The surprising connections between magic, sales presentations, and the importance of always having a “plan B.” Practical, actionable methods to decode how others like to communicate through facial features, word choice, and body language. Why personal branding and authentic relationships have become non-negotiable in today’s workplace. The real risks of losing touch with human interaction in a world obsessed with automation. Key takeaways: Presentation Over Product: Whether you’re on a stage or in a sales pitch, the quality of your communication and preparation trumps the "final product." Much like a magic show, how you present yourself and adapt on the fly is what builds trust and buys engagement from your audience 00:00, 10:07. People Will Tell You How They Want to Be Communicated With: Every day, your clients and teammates share valuable clues about their preferred communication style—auditory, visual, or kinesthetic via their emails, texts, and speech patterns. Tune in, watch for their cues, and adjust your approach for maximum rapport 12:05, 17:47. Mastering Body Language is Essential: Reading faces is a proactive skill you can use from the moment you walk into a room, but body language tells you how the conversation is actually going. Don’t just focus on crossed arms look at engagement, eye contact, and even changes in someone’s lower eyelid to detect openness or resistance in real time 21:38, 24:24. Leverage Technology, But Don’t Lose The Human Touch: AI, automation, and digital tools are here to stay—and can supercharge your productivity. But they can’t replace the human need for empathy, connection, and adaptability. The ability to connect authentically leads to higher close rates, better retention, and stronger workplace culture 13:27, 36:10. Personal Brand and Relationship Building Matter Now More Than Ever: It’s not enough to be competent; developing your personal brand and deepening client and colleague relationships is what will make you indispensable, even as companies cut costs and roles are automated. In a race to the bottom, relationships are what keep you competitive 34:06, 40:31. We hope you walk away with a renewed appreciation for the “soft” skills that are, in reality, your hardest-hitting leadership tools. Don’t forget to check out Brian's book recommendations, resources at Subtle Skills, and his insights on why mastering communication is essential for every modern professional! Rach & Rin

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