Marketing Over Milkshakes

Marketing Over Milkshakes is a podcast that goes behind the job titles of leading voices in affiliate marketing. The show explores the evolution of affiliate marketing, performance marketing, influencer partnerships and AI-driven commerce, helping ecommerce brands unlock one of the internet’s fastest-growing marketing channels. Brought to you by award-winning affiliate growth agency RevWise, each episode breaks down how affiliate programs, publisher partnerships, TikTok Shop, creator commerce and data-driven e-comm strategies drive scalable revenue and long-term brand growth.

Marketing Over Milkshakes is a business podcast hosted by RevWise, with 17 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

RevWise hosts Marketing Over Milkshakes, a business show with 17 episodes published.

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  Episode #16

  Affiliate Marketing Growth, Global Expansion and Publisher Strategy: Alona Malinovska on Scaling Ecommerce with Webgains

  Aug 20, 20261h 32mS1

  How can ecommerce brands use affiliate marketing to enter new markets, reach valuable customers and build scalable revenue without committing huge budgets upfront? Alona Malinovska , Managing Director of Webgains UK, joins Marketing Over Milkshakes to explain how affiliate networks connect advertisers with publishers and why human expertise remains essential as affiliate technology and artificial intelligence develop. Drawing on 13 years in performance marketing, Alona discusses affiliate programme management, publisher recruitment, customer acquisition, conversion strategy and the service first model behind Webgains. The conversation explores the publisher types attracting serious attention, including CSS affiliates, closed communities, cashback platforms, loyalty programmes and influencer partnerships. Alona also explains how brands can assess incremental affiliate revenue, customer lifetime value, average order value and the influence publishers have across the ecommerce sales funnel. Alona shares practical insights from Webgains’ international growth across China, Germany, Eastern Europe and Latin America. She reveals how one carefully planned trip to China helped Webgains secure more than 20 new clients, why Chinese ecommerce brands need local European marketing expertise and how affiliate marketing allows businesses to test international expansion with controlled costs. In this episode we talked about: How affiliate networks connect ecommerce brands with publishers How Webgains supports more than 1,800 brands and 250,000 publishers across 150 countries Why affiliate marketing operates as a commercial model rather than one fixed marketing channel How brands can tailor affiliate programmes around growth, cost control, customer acquisition and brand protection The rise of CSS affiliates and their value for growing ecommerce businesses How closed communities, newsletters, apps and private social groups are changing influencer marketing Why artificial intelligence should amplify affiliate managers and human expertise Leadership, mentorship, imposter syndrome and building support systems for employees Key Moments: 0:00: Why Chinese ecommerce brands are actively seeking European affiliate partners 02:39: Alona Malinovska’s journey through paid search and performance marketing 07:02: How Webgains connects 1,800 brands with more than 250,000 publishers 10:14: Why affiliate marketing can be difficult to explain 14:03: The responsibilities of a Managing Director at an international affiliate network 17:31: Supporting employee wellbeing and company culture during remote working 19:21: Returning to Webgains and stepping into senior leadership 23:09: Mentorship, reverse mentorship and learning from younger employees 28:00: Recruiting ambitious and curious people for a changing industry 32:43: How closed communities are reshaping affiliate and influencer marketing 38:00: Understanding incremental affiliate sales through real customer behaviour 41:18: How publisher authority influences every stage of the customer journey 45:16: Why consumers may show greater loyalty to publishers than individual retailers 50:28: The ideal brands for Webgains and international affiliate expansion 52:15: Helping Chinese ecommerce brands enter the UK and European markets 57:11: How Webgains tested an in person event strategy in Shenzhen 1:03:01: The pace, ambition and business culture Alona experienced in China 1:09:15: Moving Chinese ecommerce revenue from Amazon to direct consumer websites 1:14:27: Testing new markets through performance based affiliate partnerships 1:20:54: Why brands still need specialist affiliate marketing expertise 1:21:53: The damaging assumptions brands make about discounts and cashback 1:25:32: Smartphone addiction, screen time and digital wellbeing 1:31:00: The growth opportunity brands can unlock through experimentation

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  Episode #15

  How Wowcher Survived the Daily Deals Boom: Alexis Harrison on Affiliate Marketing, Mystery Holidays and Modern vs Traditional Media

  Aug 5, 202654 minS1

  How did Wowcher survive the collapse of the daily-deals boom, become a household-name ecommerce brand and turn £99 mystery holidays into a viral sales phenomenon? In this episode of Marketing Over Milkshakes , we sit down with Alexis Harrison , Chief Marketing Officer at Wowcher, to unpack how the business uses performance marketing, brand advertising, affiliate partnerships, customer data and conversion optimisation to sell thousands of deals every day. If you are looking to unlock the internet’s fastest growing marketing channel, connect with the team at RevWise https://revwise.com/ Alexis explains how Wowcher built national brand awareness through the iconic television advertising, she reveals how Wowcher’s £99 mystery holidays work, why the concept repeatedly goes viral on social media and she takes us behind the scenes of Wowcher’s affiliate marketing strategy, the value of long-tail content publishers, product sampling and creator partnerships. In this episode: How strong brand awareness, commercial agility and conversion optimisation helped Wowcher survive the decline of the daily-deals market. Why consumers are increasingly prioritising experiences over purchasing more physical products. How Wowcher’s £99 mystery holidays became a viral ecommerce product selling thousands of packages. Why nurturing content publishers, affiliate partners and emerging creators can create valuable long-term revenue. How product sampling, publisher credit and authentic reviews strengthen affiliate marketing campaigns. How Alexis Harrison progressed from commercial analyst to CMO at 35 while managing leadership, maternity leave and working motherhood. Key Moments: 0:00 – Alexis Harrison on Wowcher’s brand growth, affiliate marketing and becoming CMO at 35 1:20 – Marketing Over Milkshakes live with Wowcher CMO Alexis Harrison 3:35 – How Wowcher became a household-name deals, gifting and experiences brand 5:49 – Alexis Harrison’s journey from commercial analyst to Chief Marketing Officer 6:40 – Wowcher or No Wowcher: mystery holidays, unusual products and bizarre experiences 11:15 – The swingers hotel deal that generated so much traffic it crashed Wowcher’s website 13:02 – Discovering the data, ROI and customer lifetime value behind ecommerce marketing 13:39 – The daily-deals boom and how the market changed after Groupon 14:38 – Why Wowcher survived while other daily-deals businesses disappeared 16:33 – Why consumers are prioritising holidays, experiences and family days out 18:43 – Customer loyalty, personalisation and following shoppers through different life stages 20:37 – How Wowcher’s £99 mystery holidays work 23:10 – The organic social media post that sent Wowcher’s mystery holidays viral 25:00 – Expanding the mystery concept into family holidays and designer products 25:52 – Women in senior leadership and the realities of returning from maternity leave 30:29 – Why a family-first company culture helps parents succeed at work 34:10 – The value of internal mentors, external coaching and authentic public speaking 37:47 – Becoming a mentor and helping employees progress in their own careers 38:49 – How Wowcher built a diverse affiliate marketing programme 41:14 – Why brands should invest in smaller content publishers before they become major affiliates 42:43 – Product sampling, publisher credit and creating authentic affiliate content 47:25 – Becoming Chief Marketing Officer at 35 after returning from maternity leave 48:29 – Why Wowcher should have moved beyond linear television sooner 50:43 – Making leadership decisions when forecasts and assumptions contain uncertainty 52:25 – Alexis Harrison’s appearance on ITV’s The Big Audition 53:10 – The biggest AI and productivity opportunity most brands are currently missing

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  Episode #14

  How BLD BRO Built a Multi-Million-Pound DTC Skincare Brand: Tariq Kazemi on Community-Led Growth, Viral Marketing and Customer Retention

  Jul 22, 20261h 15mS1

  How do you turn a small Instagram support community into a multi-million-pound DTC skincare brand with more than 100,000 customers? In this episode of Marketing Over Milkshakes , we sit down with Tariq Kazemi , Co-Founder and CEO of BLD BRO, to unpack how a community created to challenge the negative narrative around baldness became one of the UK’s most exciting men’s skincare and ecommerce brands. If you are looking to unlock the internet’s fastest growing marketing channel, connect with the team at RevWise https://revwise.com/ In this episode: How BLD BRO grew from a small Instagram community into an award-winning DTC skincare brand serving more than 100,000 customers. Why bald positivity, male confidence, customer research and purpose-led brand positioning helped BLD BRO create products specifically for bald men. How one Meta video ad, word-of-mouth marketing and strong customer retention helped scale the business, with repeat customers generating around 50% of revenue. How BLD BRO used LADbible talent, viral social content, TikTok, ITV advertising, PR, Bald Fest and celebrity partnerships to build national awareness. Why the founders turned down Dragons’ Den and approached Amazon, retail expansion, profitability and cash flow with long-term discipline. Key Moments: 0:00 – BLD BRO on reaching 100,000 customers, multi-million-pound revenue and 50% repeat sales 01:18 – Tariq Kazemi’s BBC, Times Radio and Good Morning Britain media blitz 04:03 – Building a men’s skincare brand around bald positivity, hair loss and mental health 05:26 – Introducing Tariq Kazemi, Co-Founder and CEO of BLD BRO 11:09 – How an Instagram community became a DTC skincare business 15:39 – Tariq’s ten-year hair loss journey and the fear surrounding male baldness 18:44 – Why self-acceptance and confidence are central to the BLD BRO brand 23:18 – Why helping men matters even when they never become customers 25:50 – Authenticity as BLD BRO’s greatest brand advantage and commercial limitation 27:05 – Global expansion and becoming the leading skincare brand for bald men 28:55 – Marketing differently to younger men and established bald customers 30:05 – Creating product-market fit for bald head skincare, SPF and shaving products 33:33 – The first Meta video ad, a failed Fiverr consultant and selling out the first product run 36:15 – Scaling beyond £1 million in revenue and adapting to Meta’s Andromeda update 38:45 – Why repeat customers generate around 50% of BLD BRO’s revenue 39:31 – Launching on Amazon and achieving rapid marketplace growth 40:20 – Why BLD BRO turned down an opportunity to appear on Dragons’ Den 43:01 – Hiring a former LADbible creator and transforming organic social media growth 45:18 – Turning a John Lewis-inspired YouTube advert into an ITV television campaign 47:13 – The impact of reaching eight million homes through TV advertising 48:12 – Retail expansion, payment terms, profitability and the danger of cash-flow growth 51:09 – How Bald Fest and Free Beer for the Bald became a viral community event 52:53 – The Bald Fest poster that was shared 23,000 times on Instagram 55:20 – Guerrilla marketing, celebrity partnerships and sending a bald man to a Turkish hair transplant clinic 58:44 – Running a UK ecommerce brand while living as a digital nomad 1:08:33 – Tariq Kazemi on leadership, trust and building a high-performing team 1:10:04 – BLD BRO’s biggest ecommerce mistake: product sizing, subscriptions and customer backlash

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  Episode #13

  How To Turn Checkout Pages Into A Customer Acquisition Channel: Jack Davies on Affiliate Marketing, Retail Media and Post-Purchase Monetisation

  Jul 8, 20261h 37mS1

  Can ecommerce brands turn their checkout confirmation page into a high-performing customer acquisition and monetisation channel? In this episode of Marketing Over Milkshakes, we sit down with Jack Davies , Head of Partnerships at Sovendus, to unpack the fast-growing world of affiliate marketing, checkout monetisation, retail media, post-purchase rewards and performance-based brand partnerships. If you are looking to unlock the internet’s fastest growing marketing channel, connect with the team at RevWise https://revwise.com/ In this episode: How Sovendus helps ecommerce brands, retailers and DTC businesses monetise unused post-purchase real estate through checkout rewards, customer offers and performance-based brand partnerships. Why the checkout confirmation page is one of the most overlooked revenue opportunities in ecommerce, affiliate marketing and retail media. How post-purchase rewards generate incremental revenue after transaction, without disrupting checkout journeys or damaging conversion rates. Why rewards-based activations sits at the intersection of affiliate marketing, retail media, customer acquisition, on-site monetisation and performance partnerships. How brands like Trainline, Just Eat, HelloFresh and Freddie’s Flowers use checkout offers to drive new customer acquisition. Why affiliate marketing is moving beyond last-click attribution into creator affiliates, influencer marketing, CSS, commerce content, first-party data and measurable ecommerce growth. Key Moments: 0:00 – Jack Davies on affiliate marketing, checkout monetisation and new customer tracking 8:27 – Introducing Jack Davies, Head of Partnerships at Sovendus 10:54 – How post-purchase rewards work 12:31 – How ecommerce brands monetise checkout pages and drive customer acquisition 13:39 – Trainline, app integrations and checkout pages as performance media 17:04 – Why brands are moving away from discounting, voucher codes and cashback 18:48 – Gift-with-purchase, subscriptions and lifetime value in affiliate marketing 20:14 – Checkout impressions, RPM and why post-purchase monetisation can outperform programmatic ads 21:48 – Why checkout monetisation can become pure bottom-line profit for retailers 23:25 – Closed-loop voucher offers, single-use URLs and fraud prevention 31:32 – Why affiliate managers struggle to sell checkout monetisation internally 39:21 – Retail media, relevance and matching offers to customer behaviour 40:49 – How quickly brands can see results from checkout rewards 44:24 – Brand safety, blacklists and controlling where offers appear 51:20 – Incrementality, new customer tracking and why affiliate attribution is misunderstood 58:06 – The reputation problem in affiliate marketing and why the industry needs better debate 1:01:02 – Should influencer marketing, creator affiliates and CSS sit inside affiliate? 1:10:10 – First-party tracking, affiliate networks and the future of affiliate technology 1:22:17 – How affiliate marketing has changed over the last decade 1:35:17 – The biggest opportunity most ecommerce brands are missing: checkout monetisation

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  Episode #12

  How Nutriseed Turned TikTok Shop Into A £200K/Month Growth Channel: James Green on Creator Affiliates, DTC Growth and Scaling A Bootstrapped Health Brand

  Jun 24, 20261h 21mS1

  Can TikTok Shop really become one of the most powerful growth channels for a direct-to-consumer brand? In this episode of Marketing Over Milkshakes, we sit down with James Green , Founder of Nutriseed, to unpack how a bootstrapped UK health and wellness brand went from kitchen table startup to a fast-growing DTC business using cold pressed juices, customer loyalty, creator partnerships, TikTok Shop, Amazon and performance marketing. If you are looking to unlock the internet’s fastest growing marketing channel, connect with the team at RevWise https://revwise.com/ James shares the full story behind Nutriseed’s growth, from his early career as a magician selling tricks in Hamleys, Harrods, Selfridges and Toys R Us Times Square, to launching a lifestyle magazine, building a health brand from scratch, and scaling Nutriseed through Groupon, ecommerce, cold pressed juice cleanses and repeat-purchase products. The conversation goes deep on how rising customer acquisition costs forced Nutriseed to rethink its entire growth model, why TikTok Shop became a major top-of-funnel awareness engine, and how aggressive creator sampling, affiliate content, live shopping and channel-specific product strategy helped the brand reach around £200,000 in TikTok Shop GMV in January alone. James also breaks down the hidden “halo effect” of TikTok Shop across Amazon, Meta ads, creator content and customer acquisition, including why brands need to stop judging TikTok purely as a last-click sales channel and start understanding how it drives discovery, trust and long-term customer value. Key Moments: 0:00 – James Green on TikTok Shop, rising CPA and Nutriseed’s £200K month 03:17 – Introducing James Green, Founder of Nutriseed 06:45 – From magician to entrepreneur: Hamleys, Harrods and Toys R Us Times Square 14:39 – Launching a lifestyle magazine and learning the realities of business 17:44 – How Nutriseed started from a failed business and a passion for healthy living 19:40 – Using Groupon to scale a superfood product into 14 European markets 21:28 – Moving from marketplaces to DTC and owning the customer relationship 22:26 – Building a vertically integrated health brand and manufacturing in-house 28:29 – Why rising acquisition costs forced Nutriseed to rethink growth 34:50 – How TikTok Shop became a top-of-funnel growth engine for Nutriseed 37:43 – Losing money on TikTok Shop but winning through Amazon and repeat purchase 41:16 – The three biggest tips for winning on TikTok Shop 43:03 – Scaling production to 24-hour operation to meet demand 43:42 – Turning creator affiliate content into Meta ads and lowering CPA 45:56 – Why live shopping could be the future of ecommerce 50:20 – What TikTok Shop agencies get right and wrong 54:28 – Which brands can win on TikTok Shop and why product strategy matters 1:01:29 – Building long-term creator relationships and ambassador communities 1:05:46 – Nutriseed’s 30,000-customer community and the power of DTC feedback loops 1:11:56 – The plan to reach £1M a month on TikTok Shop 1:15:46 – Leadership, honesty and managing through difficult growth periods 1:19:14 – Why TikTok Shop is still the biggest opportunity most brands are missing

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