Money Code

The future of finance is digital. Welcome to Money Code, the show that decodes stablecoins and the evolution of programmable money for builders, investors, and decision-makers. Each week, join hosts Chuk Okpalugo, Author of Stablecoin Blueprint and Raj Parekh, Head of Payments/Stablecoins at Monad Foundation as they break down the systems and strategies of seasoned operators in the space, revealing the insights you need for better build and buy decisions.

Money Code is a business podcast hosted by Stablecon, with 30 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  NALA Scaled by Owning the Rails w/ Benji Fernandes

  Jul 30, 202652 min

  Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Benji Fernandes, founder and CEO of NALA, a remittance business for diaspora customers, and Rafiki, its B2B infrastructure arm for emerging-market payouts, collections, and stablecoin settlement. They unpack how consumer remittance volume pushed NALA to own more of the rails, why 96 out of 100 stablecoin trades in its markets are USDT, and why licenses, liquidity, and local payout infrastructure decide what stablecoins can actually do. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 What NALA does: remittance, Rafiki, and emerging-market rails 01:56 Why Benji entered a "saturated" remittance market 04:56 The failed first version of NALA 06:35 Africa's fragmentation problem: 54 countries, 40 currencies 08:20 The FX loss that pulled NALA into infrastructure 12:48 The NALA stack: ledger, treasury, distribution 18:47 Where stablecoins actually help 20:43 Three stablecoin patterns Benji is watching 26:13 Local wallets: four customer problems inside one product 31:09 The liquidity problem behind stablecoin on/off ramps 35:29 "Solve my problem fastest": what users care about 36:10 The stablecoin hype Benji pushes back on 40:44 TAM has to follow customer behavior 44:39 Payments for the next billion 47:40 Why Rafiki scaled after everyone called it a distraction 49:56 Where to find Benji and NALA Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Benji Fernandes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminf7/ | https://x.com/Benji Fernandes | https://www.nala.com | https://www.rafiki.com About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

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  Chairman French Hill on the Future of Stablecoin Regulation

  Jul 24, 202631 min

  In this special crossover episode from Stable Pulse , host Nik Milanović sits down with Chairman French Hill to discuss the GENIUS Act, the CLARITY Act, and the future of stablecoin regulation in the United States. They explore how stablecoins are reshaping payments, what clear regulation means for banks and non-bank issuers, and why the distinction between stablecoins and tokenized deposits matters. Chairman Hill also shares his perspective on reserve standards, compliance, and how policymakers are balancing innovation with consumer protection. The conversation concludes with a look at the future of asset tokenization, blockchain-based financial markets, and what it will take for the U.S. to remain a global leader in digital finance. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to Stable Pulse for more conversations with the leaders shaping the future of stablecoins, payments, and digital finance.

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  Stablecoins Need Local Liquidity w/ Jack Chong (Checker)

  Jul 23, 202649 min

  Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Jack Chong, co-founder and CEO of Checker, a stablecoin liquidity network for regulated financial institutions that processed more than $3B over the last 12 months. They unpack why "USD is not the same in different countries," how stablecoins are creating a correspondent banking 2.0 layer, and why stablecoin payments still depend on local liquidity, settlement timing, and the bottlenecks around them. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Checker’s stablecoin network for financial institutions 01:48 Convert and trade vs send and receive 04:30 Why one API is not enough 09:33 Demand side, supply side, and who actually provides liquidity 13:26 "USD is not the same in different countries" 17:15 Correspondent banking 2.0 for emerging-market fintechs 20:27 How Checker expands beyond convert and trade 23:11 Float, settlement financing, and money at rest 28:09 Why USDT and USDC are not always one-to-one 35:09 What makes a stablecoin liquid 38:54 Start with the customer’s P&L, not the token 46:02 Showing up: what Jack learned in Lagos and Brazil 50:47 Where to find Jack and Checker Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Jack Chong / Checker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-chong/ | https://www.checker.finance About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

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  Blockchains Are the Fourth Generation of Payment Rails w/ Mark Frey (Corpay) & Keith Vander Leest (BVNK)

  Jul 16, 202648 min

  Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Mark Frey, Group President of Corpay Cross-Border Solutions, which moves money to almost 200 countries in 145 currencies, and Keith Vander Leest, US General Manager at BVNK, fresh off the two companies launching embedded stablecoin wallets for Corpay's corporate clients. They unpack why cost "is not really a big driver" for stablecoin adoption when in-country payments already cost pennies, why the real prize is moving trapped liquidity 24/7 after wire cutoffs, and why "no one's really asking for stablecoins" even as providers route more volume onto them. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 What Corpay manages across 145 currencies and 200 countries 03:08 The launch: embedded stablecoin wallets for corporate clients 05:38 Blockchains as the fourth generation of payment rails 08:38 "Cost is not really a big driver": the 24/7 unlock 10:15 "Swift is sleeping": instant rails that don't interoperate 14:36 "No one's really asking for stablecoins" 21:24 Blockchain will disintermediate SWIFT 26:55 Why stablecoins need more than dollars 31:17 "We wanted to get on offense": how an incumbent ramps up 34:56 The 80/20 problem: stablecoin volume is still mostly crypto trading 38:14 Public stablecoins and private bank chains, hand in glove 43:06 "Why are we talking about yield on balances?" 46:48 Where to find Mark, Keith, Corpay, and BVNK Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Mark Frey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-frey-cross-border-payments/ | https://www.corpay.com Keith Vander Leest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithvanderleest/ | https://bvnk.com About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

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  Stablecoins Collapse Global Expansion for Fintechs w/ Alfonso + Rodri (Crossmint)

  Jul 9, 202655 min

  Presented by Stablecon; Powered by BVNK. In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Alfonso Gómez-Jordana and Rodrigo Fernández Touza, co-founders of Crossmint, a financial infrastructure company building wallets, stablecoin orchestration, and agentic commerce tools. They unpack why launching fintech globally can move from country-by-country banking integrations to a single API, how compliance shifts to infrastructure providers with economies of scale, and why the loudest agentic-payment narratives still have little volume compared with B2B procurement and payment collection. Subscribe and listen to the Money Code podcast here: https://lnk.to/MoneyCodeSN Chapters 00:00 Crossmint's evolution from NFT checkout to financial infrastructure 02:12 No API for economic activity 04:14 The monastery origin story behind Crossmint 07:51 Why NFT checkout became stablecoin infrastructure 10:02 Embedded finance: turning remittance receivers into wallet customers 13:23 Stablecoins as the universal API for global fintech 16:12 The regulatory-arbitrage objection 21:10 Four compliance surfaces in stablecoin programs 23:55 MoneyGram: reducing costs and turning receivers into customers 25:59 Marshall Islands: replacing cash-by-boat with stablecoin wallets 30:44 Agentic finance: real usage versus narrative heat 37:10 Why agents need multi-rail infrastructure 43:27 How Crossmint decides what to build next 48:39 Building enterprise trust in a frontier market 53:14 Where to find Alfonso, Rodri, and Crossmint Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | https://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Alfonso Gómez-Jordana: https://x.com/alfongj Rodrigo Fernández Touza: https://x.com/rodrifernandezt Crossmint: https://www.crossmint.com | https://x.com/crossmint | https://www.linkedin.com/company/crossmint-io About Stablecon Stablecon (https://stablecon.com/) is the premier gathering for those at the intersection of DeFi, economic policy, financial infrastructure, and institutional integration, and those reinventing global commerce. By convening the brightest minds in fintech and crypto, Stablecon provides attendees with world class thought leadership and fosters unparalleled networking and strategic collaboration across the digital payments industry. Whether you're building, advising, or navigating this new frontier, this is the room where it happens. About BVNK BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure, helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to https://bvnk.com/ to learn more.

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