Neurogenic Integration Podcast

Listen to conversations and interviews hosted by Neurogenic Integration, where we explore Neurogenic Tremoring, nervous system health, and real human experiences.

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  Episode #25

  E25 - TRE & the Nervous System of Leadership with Isabelle Claus Teixeira

  Aug 7, 20261h 14m

  For years, Isabelle Claus Teixeira trained leaders on everything you could put on a slide — competencies, values, communication. But one question kept coming back that no framework could answer: what actually creates executive presence? The search took her out of her own head and into her body, and eventually to a floor in Singapore, tremoring, finally getting the answer she'd been chasing for a career. In this episode, Alex sits down with Isabelle to trace that arc: from a French law student who wanted to be a human rights lawyer, through 27 years as a global HR and leadership-development leader; to the burnout at 34 that first revealed how much her body had been carrying; the day a coach told her "you have to go through the body — try TRE"; her training at the Strozzi Institute and with Dr. David Berceli; and the work she's building now — bringing Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) and nervous system regulation into the corporate world, where she argues that in the age of AI, our regulated, embodied humanity is the only real differentiator left. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 3:28 - A French girl who never planned to leave home 5:07 - The human rights lawyer she meant to be — and the question that redirected her 9:52 - Hitting the limit of cognitive coaching: "What is presence?" 12:37 - Burnout at 34 — and discovering developmental trauma 16:16 - "You have to go through the body" — first hearing of TRE® 17:47 - The first session and the answer to presence 19:28 - "Safety is a felt sense" — the self-awareness gap 22:55 - The being-versus-doing shift in leadership 25:15 - Holding space and the fulfillment of the organism's tremor 28:31 - An hour of tremoring: the anger practice at the Strozzi Institute 32:30 - Executive presence isn't a skill — it's the nervous system 34:59 - What makes us human in the age of AI 4 4:22 - Selling resilience, not trauma: the language corporate can hear 51:04 - "Presence and Self-Regulation for Coaches": TRE® meets ICF 53:57 - The coaches' burnout epidemic 1:01:12 - A dream of embodied leadership going mainstream 1:12:11 - Closing reflections RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Isabelle Claus Teixeira — leadership, somatic and trauma-informed coach, certified TRE® provider and trainer, and co-founder of Business & Human Development Asia, based near Kyoto, Japan: [add Isabelle's primary link before publishing] Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Richard Strozzi-Heckler and the Strozzi Institute, Amanda "Mandy" Blake (author of Your Body Is Your Brain ), David Treleaven (trauma-informed mindfulness), Jon Kabat-Zinn (MBSR), the International Coaching Federation (ICF), and Isabelle's somatic colleague Simba Stenqvist. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #24

  E24 - Humanitarian Applications of TRE: Disaster Response & Finding Local Champions with Sae Kani

  Jul 17, 20261h 16m

  In 2004, photojournalist Sae Kani was dropped by a US helicopter into Aceh, Indonesia, days after the tsunami erased entire villages. She walked, photographed, interviewed — and felt nothing. It was only back home, diagnosed with PTSD, that she began to understand what disaster leaves in the body. Two decades of humanitarian work later, she is still answering the question that experience planted: why is trauma care the piece disaster response keeps leaving out? In this episode, Alex sits down with Sae to trace that arc: from development studies in London and photojournalism in East Timor and post-tsunami Aceh; through ten years building disaster-preparedness education in Indonesia — including materials for children with disabilities that were showcased at the UN; to discovering Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) in 2012 and recognizing "the missing piece" of her aid work; the decision after the 2015 Nepal earthquake to quit her job, sell everything, and teach at a nun school in Kathmandu; the hard lessons about why quick international responses don't last; and the community facilitator model now bearing fruit in Nepal and Vietnam — where a war veteran's forty-year phantom pain finally released, and his voice reached the government in Hanoi. Sae Kani, also known as Khalida, holds bachelor's and master's degrees in International Development from SOAS, University of London, and spent 13 years working across disaster-affected regions in Asia. She discovered TRE® in 2012 while supporting recovery efforts after the Great East Japan Earthquake, became a certified provider in 2013, and spent a year in Nepal after the 2015 earthquake providing trauma care and training local therapists. Since 2016 she has been the representative of TRE for ALL Japan, and as an internationally certified TRE® trainer she conducts workshops in five Asian countries and works with clients across Europe and the Americas. She lives in Yamanakako Village, Yamanashi Prefecture, at the foot of Mount Fuji. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 3:24 - A childhood pull toward the world's hardest places 5:34 - Photojournalism: asylum seekers, East Timor & the stories behind the scenes 9:47 - Flying into Aceh after the 2004 tsunami 11:52 - "When I was there, I felt nothing" — coming home with PTSD 14:34 - A careful recovery: rest, meditation & 10,000 photographs 17:50 - The Yogyakarta earthquake & a decade in humanitarian aid 19:43 - Disaster-preparedness education for children with disabilities 27:27 - Discovering TRE®: the missing piece of aid work 28:54 - Aceh ten years later: new buildings, unhealed scars 35:29 - "Joan, we are going there" — the Nepal decision 40:46 - Learning from failure: why quick responses don't stay 41:56 - Jamuna's decade with survivors of trafficking 48:33 - Why standard certification can't reach the grassroots 53:11 - The Vietnam disability project: phantom pain & a trip to Hanoi 1:07:18 - "There is no shortcut" — support, not supervision 1:09:44 - What's next for Sae: subtle body, meditation & couples work 1:14:23 - Closing reflections RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Sae Kani — internationally certified TRE® certification trainer based in Yamanashi, Japan, and representative of TRE for ALL Japan: https://www.saekani.com/english Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Joan McDonald (TRE® trainer and Sae's partner in the Nepal project), Tsoknyi Rinpoche (whose nun school invited them to Nepal), Jamuna (community facilitator in Nepal), and TRE for All. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #23

  E23 - One World, One Family: 1,000 TRE® Workshops Across Indonesia with Hindra Gunawan

  Jul 3, 20261h 3m

  A betrayed business partner. Five years of anger and sleepless nights. A vow of forgiveness that the mind made but the body refused to keep. That was Hindra Gunawan's life before he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) — and a seven-minute phone call afterward showed him something had changed at a level no amount of willpower had reached. In this episode, Alex sits down with Hindra Gunawan — Indonesia's first TRE provider and now its certification trainer — to trace that arc: from physics teacher to tuition-center entrepreneur; from the betrayal that stole his sleep to the training room in Singapore where sixty people tremored and he didn't; from paying for radio spots he couldn't yet explain to reaching more than 40,000 Indonesians; and from a single vow in Phoenix, Arizona — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" — to celebrating his team's 1,000th workshop with Dr. David Berceli. Along the way: leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with 600 soldiers at a time, the Shaka Foundation's work with teachers, police, and disaster survivors, the durian farm he planted to fund it all, and the 3 a.m. phone commitment every Indonesian provider makes to their alumni. Hindra Gunawan is a TRE® certification trainer and provider based in Jakarta, Indonesia. A former physics teacher and education entrepreneur, he became Indonesia's first TRE provider in 2013 and has since built one of the most active TRE communities in the world — over 1,000 workshops delivered and more than 40,000 people reached. He leads TRE Indonesia and co-founded the Shaka Foundation with Dr. David Berceli, a not-for-profit bringing TRE to teachers, police, military personnel, and communities affected by natural disasters across Indonesia. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions — a decade of inspiration 5:57 The physics teacher whose students wouldn't let him go 7:38 Building a tuition-center business — five branches and a franchise 9:46 The betrayal that brought five years of anger and sleepless nights 10:48 "I said I forgive them — but when I heard their voice, the anger came back" 12:19 Sixty people tremoring in Singapore — and Hindra didn't 13:19 The second training: anger rising from stomach to throat 15:01 The seven-minute phone call that changed everything 16:00 Phoenix, 2013 — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" 20:20 Radio ads he couldn't explain — and 40,000 people later 22:50 The Shaka Foundation: disasters, guardians, and teachers 27:39 A durian farm with a mission 31:05 "Almost every day I get a testimonial" — what Hindra is most proud of 33:40 Why people stop — the wound-washing analogy and lifelong free gatherings 36:46 Leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with groups of 600 43:57 The 3 a.m. commitment every Indonesian provider makes 49:23 An earthquake, a traumatized boy, and what the tremors made possible 52:31 Tremor stigma in Indonesian culture — "this is very natural" 57:11 "TRE is a gift" — one world, one family 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Hindra Gunawan — TRE® certification trainer in Jakarta, Indonesia, leader of TRE Indonesia and co-founder of the Shaka Foundation. https://www.treindonesia.com/ Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®, co-founder of the Shaka Foundation), Chris Balsley (Hindra's first TRE teacher), TRE Indonesia, and the Shaka Foundation. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #22

  E22 - Neurogenic Tremoring as a Dynamic Superpower for Kids with Vera Live, Špela Potočnik & Katja Jarc

  Jun 26, 20261h 5m

  Most people meet Neurogenic Tremoring through trauma work. This conversation asks a different question: what if kids learned it first — as a built-in resilience skill, before the world ever tells them something is wrong? In this episode, Alex sits down with three women working at the frontier of that idea — Vera Live, Špela Potočnik, and Katja Jarc — to trace how Neurogenic Tremoring is being reframed for youth: why nervous system regulation has been “kept behind the clinical wall”; how Vera co-developed the book Dynamic Superpower: Inner Strength for Kids & Teens with TRE® creator Dr. David Berceli; and how Špela and Katja piloted a school curriculum in Slovenia where five to seven minutes of guided tremoring, twice a week, began changing how teenage students slept, focused, and felt in their own bodies. Along the way: the science stations that teach kids about the vagus nerve and interoception, why a safe relationship matters more than a perfect protocol, and how the body becomes a friend rather than a problem to fix. Vera Live co-founded Dynamic Superpower with Dr. David Berceli to bring the body’s natural tremoring reflex to kids and teens as a proactive resilience tool, not a clinical intervention. A PE teacher, yoga trainer, and certified TRE® provider, she works to equip the adults in children’s lives to pass on nervous system training safely. Find the work at https://www.reflexomobility.org Špela Potočnik is a Slovenian youth counselor, social pedagogue, and school counselor with nearly 20 years in schools, a certified TRE® provider, and one of two pilot developers behind the Slovenia study. She collaborates with the Intigrum Institute and advocates for burnout prevention in schools. Katja Jarc is a primary school teacher, marriage and family therapist, gestalt counselor, arts therapies specialist, and certified TRE® provider — the second Slovenia pilot developer. Through her practice, Manus Katja Jarc, she has integrated body-oriented and dance-movement work for over 13 years, and co-led the 2024 “TRE with Kids” training in Amsterdam with Vera. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions 6:04 The problem: regulation “kept behind the clinical wall” 6:42 Giving youth agency: “the body is really your best friend” 8:28 How the name “dynamic superpower” came to be 10:07 Špela on test anxiety, panic attacks, and the missing body piece 14:23 Adapting tremoring for kids — toys, play, and safety 15:52 The book as a manual, not just a story 20:20 Science stations: three brains, the vagus nerve, interoception 22:17 A 10-year-old reads it cold — and tremors on their own 25:51 A mother, a doctor, and her daughter’s aha moment 28:53 Lifting the stigma: “this is your power” 33:53 Inside the Slovenia pilot: how it began 35:20 Five to seven minutes, twice a week 43:14 Špela’s surprise: how little tremoring is enough 4 5:10 The real key — a safe relationship 50:01 What’s next: educational programs & specialized guides 57:14 Closing reflections: “pay attention, become astonished” 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with the guests — Reflexive Mobility Academy (Vera Live): https://www.reflexomobility.org · Špela Potočnik: https://www.mojesledi.com · Katja Jarc: practice MANUS. The Slovenia pilot and the family’s TRE® videos with Dr. Berceli are linked in the internal notes below. Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Linnea Gillen, Dr. Lisa Glenk, the Intigrum Institute, and the International Baccalaureate framework. Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #21

  E21 - Neurogenic Tremoring As a Catalyst for Meditation, Qigong & Nondual Practice with Jared Dahmer

  Jun 19, 202655 min

  Most people come to tremoring looking for relief. Jared came looking for depth . By the time he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®), he'd spent nearly a decade inside ancient yoga, Daoist Qigong, and nondual meditation — and what he wasn't expecting was that a single video, found mid-session on the floor of his own room, would finally let all of it land in his body. In this episode, Alex sits down with Jared to trace that arc: years of self-study in Qigong and Kriya; the night he searched "how to release trauma" and stumbled onto TRE; and the first three months when, in his words, "everything became felt in my body." Along the way they get into pausing inside a session, the integration that happens lying still afterward, lowering your baseline beneath the polyvagal curve, and the paradox at the heart of his path — nondual teachers say let go of the body, while tremoring keeps inviting him further in. Jared is also leading a guest workshop for the Neurogenic Integration community on Thursday, October 22, 2026 — a chance to experience what brings tremoring alive for him, firsthand. Jared Dahmer is a TRE® provider certified through Red Beard's TRE certification pathway, based in Louisiana, USA. Before TRE, he spent six to seven years in deep self-study of Daoist Qigong — in the lineage of Jonathan White, Michael Winn, and Mantak Chia — alongside ancient yoga, Kriya, and nondual meditation. He teaches both TRE and Qigong and offers one-on-one sessions, exploring tremoring not only as a way to release stress and trauma, but as a catalyst for embodiment and awakening. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions 2:00 Starting Qigong in 2020: the search for deeper connection 4:00 An experience at twenty that changed everything 6:00 What is Qigong? "The art of subtle breath" 8:00 Kriya, Kundalini & feeling "turned on by life from within" 10:00 Defining "deep": the body as temple 15:00 Searching "how to release trauma" — and finding TRE 16:00 "Tickled from within": laughter, tears, and arriving at safety 17:00 The morning after: long-term TRE and getting hooked 20:00 The first three months: "everything became felt in my body" 22:00 "I feel myself": dropping the character 25:00 Pausing inside a session: the weightlifting analogy 27:00 Integration: how lying still teaches the body to meditate 29:00 Beneath the polyvagal curve: lowering your baseline 36:00 Teaching others: intimacy, relationships & feeling safe 40:00 "Medicine for the nervous system" 44:00 Where tremoring meets nondual meditation 50:00 Closing reflections: "I just want the world to feel safer" 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Jared Dahmer — TRE® provider & Qigong teacher, Louisiana, USA, currently offering one-on-one sessions. Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jaredjoyyy Also mentioned: David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Jonathan White, Michael Winn, Mantak Chia, Mika Devos, Tree Wiseblood, Christina Guillaume, Ramana Maharshi, and the book The Direct Means to Eternal Bliss . (Full links in the internal notes below.) Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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