
Episode #15
Science is Political. Meet the Scientist Who Escaped the Lab
Marcius opens with his thoughts on vaccines, bad lettuce, and AOC, revealing just how much “science” lies just beneath the surface of major news items. Then this week’s guest Dr. Ticora Jones joins to share her journey from a childhood fascination with science to her role as a public science executive: Chief Scientist at Natural Resources Defense Council in Washington, DC. She and Marcius explore how science influences public policy, where it gets lost in translation, and why this matters at all to you and your daily life. Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters00:50 Introduction and News Roundup 02:38 What Makes a News Story A Science Story? 04:11 Defining the Science - Policy Interface 05:47 Public Scientists Bridge The Worlds of Politics and Research 06:46 Introduction to Dr. Ticora Jones 09:52 Journey from Scientist to Executive 13:08 Teaching Experience and Its Impact 16:12 Graduate School and Global Citizenship 19:11 Transition to Public Policy and Advocacy 22:00 The Role of Science in Advocacy 22:15 After the 24-hr New Cycle, Before Social Media Popped Off 25:18 Scientific Information in Politics 28:08 Current Work at NRDC 29:30 Intro to Natural Resources Defense Council: What is NRDC? 30:54 Science for Public Good 34:10 Why Some Scientists Prefer to Stay Quiet 39:18 The Challenge of Communicating Science 40:19 Are Scientists Too In Love With Nuance? 43:16 Is Nuance Better Understood In-Person, Not Online? 46:17 There are No Magic Technological Fixes, Right...? 48:48 How Science Travels from Lab to Newsroom: Case Study 51:57 The Role of Media in Science Communication 54:06 What is a "clean cookstove" and how are they connected to academic research? 54:42 The Impact of Misinformation 57:52 The Future of Science Communication 59:26 Is Presumption of Regularity Still a Safe Assumption? 01:01:23 Digital Literacy for the Kids 01:02:01 Closing Thoughts, Thanks Yous, Music Keywords: science communication, public policy, science advocacy, NRDC, digital literacy, science in media, public trust in science, science and policy interface, science careers outside of academia On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026. Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com

