Owner To Owner Podcast

Owner to Owner is the boldest business podcast for Australia’s SMEs. Host Michael Kerr gets raw and real, talking to business owners like you. Exploring the everyday struggles they face and the different pathways they tread to success. Forget the slick stories of tech titans and out-of-reach solutions from people who’ve never put their hopes and livelihood on the line. Owner to Owner dives into the wins and losses, pitfalls, luck and moments that made a difference. You’ll find grit, laughs, maybe a few tears and hard-won lessons only available from others who’ve been where you are—whatever your stage of ownership. Every business owner has a compelling story to share. Join us to listen and learn.

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  Episode #179

  Brewing Independence: 20 Years of Craft Beer Success with Peta Fielding

  Aug 5, 20261h 2mS1

  What does it take to build a thriving independent brewery in the shadow of multinational giants? In this episode, Peta Fielding , co-founder of Burleigh Brewing , takes us behind the scenes of her nearly 20-year journey crafting one of Australia's most beloved indie beer brands. From buying a brewery out of Chapter 11 bankruptcy to mastering long-term strategy and fostering deep brand loyalty, Peta shares the highs, lows, and crucial decisions that fueled their growth. Whether you're a craft beer enthusiast or an aspiring entrepreneur, this episode is packed with practical insights on passion, resilience, and scaling up while staying true to your community values. Key Topics & Takeaways: Building and sustaining an independent craft brewery in Australia Navigating early hurdles, including acquiring a bankrupt business Competing against multinational beverage giants The power of venue dynamics, brand loyalty, and community engagement Strategic growth, funding, and leadership for the long haul Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction to Peta Fielding & Burleigh Brewing 02:27 – The Origins: From Hawaii MBA to Burleigh Heads 05:55 – Buying a Brewery Out of Chapter 11 Bankruptcy 07:36 – Building a Business with Values & Community Focus 12:38 – Scaling Up: From Small Units to a Production Brewery 18:16 – Funding, Investors, & Business Growth 25:49 – Current Capacity & Future Expansion 37:27 – Venue Role & Community Engagement 43:44 – Industry Challenges & Multinationals in Australia 54:22 – Leadership, Succession, & Long-Term Vision 1:07:38 – Future Outlook & Maintaining Independence Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show. Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes. Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business. michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au  

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  Episode #178

  Solving the SME Succession Challenge with Employee Ownership | Andrew Clements-EOA

  Jul 15, 202657 minS1

  As thousands of Australian small business owners approach retirement in the coming decade, the question of succession looms large. Selling to a competitor or on the open market are familiar paths, but what about selling to the people who know the business best—the employees? @ Andrew Clements from @ employeeownershipaustralia talks about; The critical differences between traditional share schemes and EOTs, How to overcome the regulatory hurdles holding Australia back, and Why transitioning ownership to your team can boost productivity and preserve your business legacy. Whether you are looking to retire in five years or simply want to build a more engaged workforce today, this episode provides a clear roadmap for exploring employee ownership. In This Episode, We Cover: The looming SME succession crisis and why traditional exits aren't working for everyone. The fundamental differences between allocated employee share schemes and unallocated EOTs. How overseas markets like the UK and Canada have successfully mainstreamed employee ownership. Why EOTs are a perfect fit for professional service businesses, and how to structure them for asset-heavy businesses like farming. The "tax dodge" stigma and the urgent need for clear ATO guidance and legislative recognition in Australia. How employee ownership drives remarkable productivity and builds stronger local communities. Andrew’s top three actionable tips for founders looking to transition out of their business in the next five years. TIMELINE: 00:00 Introduction: The Looming SME Succession Challenge 01:12 What's Changed in Employee Ownership in the Last 5 Years? 07:40 Understanding Employee Share Schemes: Allocated vs. Unallocated Plans 14:55 Are EOTs a Genuine Asset Class for Small Business? 21:19 The Push for Legislative Recognition and ATO Guidance 27:39 Building Community and Retaining Local Businesses 31:33 Why Professional Service Businesses are Perfect for EOTs 38:13 Financing the Exit: Staged Sell-Downs and Managing Risk 45:22 Boosting SME Productivity Through Employee Engagement 49:23 Structuring EOTs for Asset-Heavy vs. Low-Capital Businesses 55:46 The Gap in Professional Advisor Awareness 59:28 Top 3 Tips for Founders Retiring in 5 Years 01:01:20 Andrew’s Vision for Simplifying Small Business Regulation About Our Guest: Andrew Clements is the Co-Chair of Employee Ownership Australia (EOA) , an advocacy group dedicated to facilitating and promoting employee ownership across the country. Andrew is a passionate advocate for reducing regulatory complexity and creating simple, robust succession models for Australian SMEs. Read the full, searchable transcript of this episode here: https://ownertoownerpodcast.com.au/episodes Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show. Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes. Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business. michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au  

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  Episode #177

  How Employee Ownership Reshapes Trust, Motivation, and Legacy in Small Business: Monica O’Malley

  Jul 1, 202653 minS1

  Important Note for Listeners: This episode contains a discussion regarding mental health and the professional challenges—including suicidal ideation—faced by dental practitioners. We believe these conversations are vital for industry transparency and support. If you or someone you know is experiencing distress, please reach out to one of the following confidential, professional services: Dental Practitioner Support : A 24/7, independent, and free national support service specifically for dental practitioners, students, and their families. Phone: 1800 377 700. Lifeline Australia : 24/7 crisis support and suicide prevention services. Phone: 13 11 14. Beyond Blue : 24/7 mental health support and resources for all Australians. Phone: 1300 224 636. The Essential Network (TEN) : Specialized mental health support for health professionals, developed by the Black Dog Institute. Episode Overview: In this episode, we explore the structural and cultural shift of moving a small business toward an employee-owned model. Our guest, Monica O’Malley, shares her journey in restructuring her dental practice, focusing on how this model fosters professional agency, eliminates traditional hierarchical friction, and builds long-term organizational resilience. We discuss the tangible impact of ownership on team motivation and the intentional steps required for leaders to build a lasting, purpose-driven professional legacy. Key Topics Covered: The Case for Shared Agency: Moving beyond top-down management to increase team engagement and problem-solving capabilities. Building Institutional Resilience: How employee ownership acts as a buffer against industry turbulence and "perma-crisis." Cultural Transformation: Practical steps for shifting the internal value system of a firm toward transparency and shared vision. Legacy Planning: Strategies for leaders looking to transition power and ensure the long-term health of their practice. Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show. Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes. Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business. michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au  

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  Episode #176

  Designing a Business that Fits Your Lifestyle: Not the Other Way Around - Marie Carrillon

  Jun 17, 202645 minS1

  Building a Purpose-Driven Business as a Mumpreneur with Marie Carillon In this episode, Marie Carillon , founder and podcast host of the Business Mum Compass, shares her insights into how mothers can create impactful, flexible businesses that align with their lifestyle and values. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity, personal branding, and clear definitions of success, especially in the evolving online economy. Key insights include: How Marie transitioned from broad entrepreneurship content to focusing on mumpreneurs upon realizing their unique needs. The significance of personal branding for online success and the role of authenticity in building trust. Strategies for overcoming imposter syndrome and mindset blocks, especially for mothers balancing family and business. The importance of defining success on your own terms and regularly revisiting your goals. How online businesses offer greater flexibility, making it easier to balance motherhood and entrepreneurship. The necessity of showing up consistently online, even when results aren’t immediate. Reflection on the journey of entrepreneurship, learning from failures, and the value of persistence. The influence of AI and digital tools in scaling small businesses and personal branding. The ongoing need for support systems and accessible education for mumpreneurs, including affordable childcare and mental health resources. Practical steps for aspiring mompreneurs to start their journey with confidence and authenticity. Chapters: Introduction to Marie Carillon : Her work at the intersection of motherhood and entrepreneurship Transition to Mumpreneurs : From general entrepreneurship to a niche focus Mindset Challenges : Overcoming imposter syndrome Aligning Business with Motherhood : Balancing goals and realities Coaching and Confidence : Overcoming mindset blocks Personal Branding : Key to online success AI and Digital Tools : Impact on business scaling Authenticity Online : Building trust and relatability Engaging Content Creation : Tips for founders Offline vs. Online Branding : Current landscape Evolving Business with Family Needs : Defining success Purpose and Passion : Sustaining motivation Trial and Error in Entrepreneurship : Learning from failures Avoiding Burnout : Setting realistic expectations Online Business Models : Flexibility and growth Aligning Business with Passions : Core values Marie’s Entrepreneurial Journey : Lessons learned Misinformation about Success : Importance of authenticity Persistence and Results : Long-term success Podcast Evolution : Focus on mumpreneurs Embracing Change : Overcoming fear of pivoting External Opinions and Resilience : Influences on business Supporting Mums in Business : Education and childcare Societal Role of Mums : Through entrepreneurship Success Factors for Small Business : Consistent effort and support Future of AI in Branding : Growth opportunities Integrating Business Education : Practical advice Resources & Links: The Business Mum Compass Podcast Marie Carillon - LinkedIn Marie Carillon - Instagram Business Mum Loveable Website Connect with Marie: LinkedIn Instagram Thanks for listening.  Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show. Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes. Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business. michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.au www.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au  

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  Episode #175

  Community Ownership Explained: How Rural Towns Can Save Essential Businesses: Matt Pfahlert

  Jun 3, 202650 minS1

  <p>Most rural communities are facing a critical crossroads: how to preserve essential local businesses when traditional ownership models are failing. What if communities could take ownership themselves—reclaiming their future one business at a time?</p> <p>Matt Pfahlert founder of Community Owned Australia, explains how regional communities can take a step towards buying and operating the assets they can't afford to lose. </p> <p>Drawing on successful models from Australia and overseas, Matt shares practical lessons on community ownership, social enterprise, governance, funding and long-term sustainability.</p> <p>This conversation explores what happens when ownership transition fail, how com...

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