
Episode #64
Rewiring Bedtime: Neurodiversity, Sleep Science, and Ending the Nightly Battle with Michelle Cyril
In this enlightening and reassuring episode, I sit down with paediatric and adult sleep specialist Michelle Cyril to unpack why neurodivergent brains—especially those with ADHD and autism—find falling asleep such an uphill struggle. Michelle details how standard bedtime advice often completely backfires for neurodivergent children and adults, offering practical, neuro-affirming strategies instead. From finding your personal "sleep window" and meeting sensory needs to introducing laughter, whole-body relaxation, and morning daylight to reset the body clock, this conversation provides an empathetic roadmap for bringing peace, predictability, and joy back into your evening routine. EPISODE REVEALS Traditional advice like dimming lights and quiet routines can increase demand-avoidance in neurodivergent children; bedtime must work with their sensory needs, dopamine requirements, and natural rhythms rather than against them. Sleep needs are individual, and optimal rest comes from identifying your personal "sleep window" rather than forcing a generic eight-hour block. You cannot force a child or yourself to fall asleep on command; creating physical relaxation and laughter engages the parasympathetic nervous system, allowing sleep to naturally sneak up. Starting the body clock at a consistent wake-up time with 30 minutes of natural daylight (or a sunrise lamp) directly regulates evening melatonin and eases delayed sleep phase issues. BEST MOMENTS "I talk about sleep being a ninja... You can't say, 'Right, I'm going to sleep now.' Sleep just creeps up on you... and the worst thing you can do is to tell a child 'just go to sleep.'" "When they're laughing, they are engaging their parasympathetic nervous system, which disengages the fight and flight mode, and that's exactly what we want going up to bedtime." "We throw out the 'shoulds' and we go: what does your child need right now? We focus on where they're at now, and then we start to make some changes." "Being told to 'just go to sleep' is a bit like being told 'just stop thinking.' If only it was that easy!" "Remember to be kind to yourself, and let's change the world, one family at a time." CLIFF´S SERVICES Are you struggling with anxiety and want support from someone who has been there and come out the other side? - Message Cliff here and take advantage of his founding members offer: https://m.me/cliff.kilmister CONTACT ME Instagram: @cliff_kilmister08 https://www.facebook.com/cliff.kilmister X - @KilmisterCliff https://www.youtube.com/@ParentingAutismandADHD HOST BIO Cliff Kilmister is a dedicated parent, advocate, and cat whisperer with firsthand experience raising a child with autism, ADHD, and Sensory Processing Disorder (SPD). Having navigated the challenges of school refusal, meltdowns, and sensory sensitivities, Cliff brings an empathetic, real-world perspective to the podcast. When he's not helping his child thrive, he’s dodging the evil stares of his three cats, who are plotting to take over the world (fortunately, they still haven’t figured out how to use the tin opener). Cliff offers practical advice, expert insights, and personal stories to help families facing similar struggles. Cliff is focused on connecting with professionals and networks to raise awareness about the growing need for the education system to adapt to the increasing neurodiverse population. Join the community on Patreon to share experiences, access exclusive content, and work together for change! This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/





