PostAGI Podcast

The AGI debate is the easy part. The harder questions come after. Post AGI is a series of conversations on what AGI actually changes for labour, capital, governance, markets, privacy, and the world that has to live with it.Each episode is a long-form conversation with someone thinking hard about one of those questions: economists, political scientists, cryptographers, and the builders shaping what comes next. Not whether AGI arrives, but who it serves once it does.Hosted by Soubhik Deb and Sreeram Kanan. Powered by Eigen.

PostAGI Podcast is a technology podcast hosted by Soubhik Deb and Sreeram Kanan, with 8 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Soubhik Deb and Sreeram Kanan hosts PostAGI Podcast, a technology show with 8 episodes published.

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  Episode #9

  The Hierarchies Could Get Fixed Forever - Paras Chopra | PostAGI Episode 09

  Aug 17, 202646 minS1

  Open models are about six months behind the frontier. That number holds only while the frontier stays open. Close it, let models train better models, and the gap compounds. Countries with the GPUs make better intelligence, and that intelligence buys more GPUs. Paras Chopra built Wingify, sold it, and now runs Lossfunk, a research lab in Bangalore. He writes at Inverted Passion under the tagline know what's true and do what's right. Sreeram Kannan talks with him about why this wave of automation reaches work itself rather than particular tasks, what happens to the link between effort and outcome when capital alone can buy intelligence, and whether coordination technology can do anything about it. They get into gradual disempowerment, why democracy runs at a few bits per person per year, speculation as a way out of bad equilibria, the two things that killed DAOs, smart contracts that own real assets, and the two by two Paras uses to work out what gets automated first. This is part 1 of two. Chapters 00:00 Cold open 00:54 Know what's true, do what's right 03:10 From Wingify to a research lab 07:15 Hierarchies that could get fixed forever 09:43 The leverage labor used to have 12:50 When action and outcome come apart 16:47 Democracy is just a word 20:46 What went wrong with blockchain 23:51 Speculation as a coordination technology 27:24 Permissionless innovation 31:46 Why DAOs didn't work 35:12 The most controllable intelligence ever built 39:33 Verifiability and confounding PostAGI is powered by Eigen. The show argues that AGI defaults toward power concentration, and that coordination is the counterweight.

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  Episode #8

  A Scientific Breakthrough Is Not Something Everyone Already Believes - Stuart Buck | PostAGI Episode 08

  Aug 14, 202634 minS1

  Stuart Buck runs the Good Science Project, a think tank focused on federal science funding and how research gets organized. Before that, as a Vice President at Arnold Ventures, he funded the Reproducibility Projects in Psychology and Cancer Biology — the work that showed how much published science does not replicate. He helped launch the Center for Open Science and created the TOP Guidelines, now the most widely adopted standards for scientific publication. Most federal science money at NIH and NSF is handed out on the recommendation of peer review panels made up of experts in your field. Stuart's argument is that this works fine for normal science and badly for breakthroughs, because a breakthrough is not something a panel of twenty peers would have agreed on three to five years earlier. Katalin Karikó couldn't get NIH grants for mRNA work in the 1990s. She was demoted off the tenure track, ended up as a lab technician in another professor's lab, and twenty years later won the Nobel Prize alongside that same professor. Sreeram and Soubhik push on what changes when AI agents enter the loop: whether the academic paper still makes sense as the unit of scientific output, whether benchmark-driven culture from the AI world transfers to biology, and whether open science survives if the frontier moves inside a handful of labs. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 00:48 What the Good Science Project does 02:33 The peer review paradox 03:18 Einstein in 1902 04:01 The National Institute for Irrelevant Ideas 04:20 Katalin Karikó and mRNA 06:31 Brain drain from academia to industry 08:22 What public funders should focus on instead 09:51 Should government take equity in AI companies 10:49 Big projects versus open-ended research 13:19 The problem with incremental research 14:37 What everyone knows about NIH grant applications 15:23 Why consensus scoring selects against good ideas 16:33 Funding the polarizing proposals 17:34 Where AI money goes next 18:36 NSF XLabs and funding outside universities 20:28 Bayh-Dole and who should own the patent 22:11 Agents, benchmarks, and compressed collaboration 24:18 The stack of papers 26:04 What the AI community got right with ImageNet 29:19 Overfitting to benchmarks 30:57 A golden age for open science 32:05 An open alternative to recursive self improvement 33:02 One contrarian thought about post-AGI society Stuart Buck: [handle TBC] Good Science Project: goodscienceproject.org Sreeram Kannan: https://x.com/sreeramkannanSoubhik Deb: https://x.com/soubhikdeb PostAGI is powered by Eigen Labs.

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  Episode #6

  Can Government Keep Pace with AGI? - Samuel Hammond | PostAGI Ep.06

  Jul 21, 202624 minS1

  Samuel Hammond is director of AI policy and chief economist at the Foundation for American Innovation, a Washington DC think tank working on technology policy and the institutions that govern it. He has written extensively on state capacity, AI governance, and why every major technology wave forces equally transformative change in the institutions around it. Sam thinks governments will be overwhelmed and displaced by AI, potentially quite quickly. AGI is fundamentally an organizational shock, and government is just another organization, just a much bigger one. If it doesn't reform itself fast enough, it goes the way of Blockbuster. His prescription starts with monitoring and state capacity, but ultimately means government that is grown rather than designed, where formal rulemaking gives way to objective functions that agents solve for. We get into why courts still using human stenographers will lose ground to AI arbitration systems processing thousands of contracts a minute, what a community-notes model for FDA drug approval could look like, the legibility arms race where AI makes some parts of the world radically more transparent and others radically less, and Inspector General GPT, a model with full audit trails into an agent-run government reporting instantly back to Congress. PostAGI is a podcast from Eigen Labs exploring economics, labor, capital, and governance heading into AGI. The conversation ends with the most contrarian bet of the season: something resembling state collapse by the early 2030s, and a future of city states with drone defenses while the hinterland becomes a no-go zone.

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  Episode #5

  We Already Have a Superintelligence - Allison Duettmann | PostAGI Ep.05

  Jul 16, 202617 minS1

  Allison Duettmann is the President and CEO of the Foresight Institute, a San Francisco nonprofit advancing frontier technology, including AI, biotechnology, and nanotechnology, for the long-term benefit of life. She founded Existential Hope and is a leading voice in human-AI cooperation. Allison thinks the public's fear of AI is understandable, but that fear without imagination gets us nowhere. In this episode she makes the case for applying AI to science today instead of waiting for AGI to solve everything, and explains why leaving that work to a handful of closed labs would be a mistake. We get into the open science experiments her team runs, including a community effort that outperformed one of Google's quantum computing results, and a decentralized inference network built entirely out of MacBooks. She explains why sovereign compute matters as prices climb and access tightens, how cryptography finally lets networks stay open and private at the same time, and why AI might lower the coordination costs that have always made large scale collaboration hard. PostAGI is a podcast from Eigen Labs exploring economics, labor, capital, and governance heading into AGI. The conversation ends somewhere unexpected: superintelligence as something we already have in the form of civilization, and why Allison signs people up for the future in the most literal way possible.

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  Episode #4

  China Is Winning Biotech. Then AGI Changes Everything - Cremieux Recueil | PostAGI Ep.04

  Jul 10, 202634 minS1

  Cremieux Recueil joins PostAGI to talk about the state of biotech and open science heading into AGI. In about ten years China went from copying Western drugs to being the country America now copies. We get into how that happened, the deregulation and pricing moves behind it, and why so much of biotech's frontier has shifted there. From there the conversation opens up to a bigger question: whether science stays open at all as AI labs start pulling more of the stack in-house, and what AGI does to any of it. PostAGI explores economics, labor, capital, and governance in a world after AGI. The recurring worry: AGI defaults toward concentrating power, and coordination is what pushes back.

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