
Pickles & Pasta with Steph and Jay
What "Making It" Actually Looks Like (And Why It Never Feels Like Enough)
What does "making it" actually feel like once you think you've arrived? In this episode of Pickles & Pasta, Steph and Jay dive into one of the most misunderstood aspects of creative and entrepreneurial life: the disconnect between how success looks from the outside and how it feels on the inside. Steph shares her journey, from graduating from Parsons to working as a designer at Andrew Marc, launching Have Some Fun Today—a brand that unexpectedly caught the attention of A-list celebrities like Halle Berry and Mila Kunis—and transitioning into fine art, with her paintings showcased in public works at the GoggleWorks. Despite magazine covers, celebrity endorsements, and gallery recognition, she reveals why none of it has ever truly felt like "making it." Instead, she discusses why she defines success by financial independence and staying true to herself. Jay offers a different perspective, recounting his own career highlights, from earning a spot on the U.S. Davis Cup team through sheer determination, to working with Andre Agassi, to being featured on HBO and in Sports Illustrated. He reflects on why external recognition rarely aligns with the internal satisfaction of achievement. Their conversation takes a philosophical turn as they explore whether "making it" is defined by financial milestones, public perception, or quieter achievements like raising great kids, doing meaningful work, or helping others in small but impactful ways. Along the way, they examine Taylor Swift's billionaire status as the ultimate case study, how people's behavior shifts once you're perceived as successful, and Jay's long-term vision for Village. This episode explores: The "moving goalpost" phenomenon and why dedicated creatives constantly redefine what "making it" means The difference between feeling successful and being seen as having "made it" by others Why financial success, more than critical acclaim, is often the cultural marker of "arriving" How people's attitudes toward you change when you're perceived as successful, even if you feel the same The Davis Cup story: earning a spot on the U.S. team through an unplanned trip to Mexico Why Steph considers raising her daughters her greatest accomplishment, more than any career milestone Why Jay doesn't see Village as his "making it" moment, even as it reshapes the industry The idea that helping others in simple, unglamorous ways might be the truest form of success And more! Takeaway: "Making it" isn't a fixed destination—it's a goalpost that keeps moving for those who are passionate about their work. True success might not be about accolades at all; it could be about showing up for others in small, meaningful ways every day. Subscribe so you never miss an episode of Pickles & Pasta, and share this with someone who's still waiting to feel like they've "made it." Chapters 0:00 Cold Open 0:33 Welcome to the Show 1:16 What Does "Making It" Really Mean? 3:16 Steph's Career Journey & the Moving Goalposts 10:53 Is Money the Real Measure of Success? 15:05 Why Overachievers Never Feel Done 17:03 A Friend Who Truly "Made It" 19:55 How Fame Changes the Way People Treat You 21:40 Taylor Swift & Undeniable Success 22:50 Steph's Real Proudest Achievement 26:40 Single Motherhood & Authentic Art 32:22 Jay's Tennis World Milestones 34:53 Building Village: Redefining Success 40:50 The Power of Helping Others 45:32 Closing Thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

