
Episode #79
Episode 79: How to Use Meta Ads to Grow Your Podcast in 2026 with Brooklyn Grotte
If you have ever wondered whether paid ads could actually help you grow your podcast, or if Meta Ads Manager makes your eyes glaze over, this episode is for you. My guest is Meta ad strategist and agency owner Brooklyn Grotte. She manages millions of dollars in ad spend every month for her clients, and she makes advertising feel accessible, practical, and human. This conversation is a recording from a live training Brooklyn gave inside one of my masterminds, where she broke down exactly what is working for Meta ads right now, why so many podcasters are wasting money on the wrong types of campaigns, and how even a small budget can help you grow your audience, build your email list, and attract the right listeners. In this episode, Brooklyn shares the ad strategies she is seeing succeed in real time, the difference between awareness, engagement, and lead generation campaigns, and why founder-led content is outperforming AI-generated ads right now. Whether you are completely new to paid ads or you have been experimenting without much luck, you will walk away with a clear understanding of how to use ads strategically to grow your podcast and your business. Here's a glance to the episode: Why lead generation ads outperform awareness ads for podcast growth How Meta's Advantage Plus targeting works and why manual interest stacking is dead Why founder-led video is outperforming AI avatars and AI-generated content right now The four ad plays for podcasters: subscribe, episode, lead magnet, and private podcast Why a curated podcast playlist makes one of the most effective lead magnets The real numbers behind Meta's learning phase and how many conversions you need before scaling Budget guidance for lead gen ads, engagement ads, and low-ticket offers Why boosting Instagram posts rarely works (and the one case where it does) The five stages of buyer awareness and how to create ads for each stage How to use AI tools like Claude to research competitor ads and generate hook variations Why your offer, not your ad creative, is usually the real bottleneck The rule of thumb for scaling ad budget without breaking your results Why episode soundbites outperform generic show trailers as ad creative How to structure a direct-to-camera ad video that hooks viewers in the first 3 seconds Timestamps: 03:06: How Kylee and Brooklyn met and why community matters 08:53: What is working in Meta ads right now (the Andromeda algorithm explained) 10:16: Advantage Plus targeting: why manual interest stacking is no longer needed 10:50: Why lead gen ads to a free offer are working better than awareness ads 11:35: Founder-led video vs. AI avatars: a real test and real results 12:59: How to use the Meta Ads Library to research competitor ads 14:49: Comment-to-DM keyword ads and why they work 16:11: Why boosting Instagram posts rarely makes sense (and the one exception) 20:38: The four ad plays for podcasters: subscribe, episode, lead magnet, private podcast 23:44: Why a curated podcast playlist is one of the most effective lead magnets 26:25: Three budget zones and how much to spend based on your goal 26:55: The learning phase explained: how many conversions you need before Meta optimizes 33:46: How Meta billing actually works (it is not cost per click) 37:37: Is it too early in your business to run paid ads? 42:16: Recommendation: lead gen over awareness or engagement for podcasters 42:54: Static vs. video vs. carousel: what performs and how Brooklyn splits her content mix 44:08: The five stages of buyer awareness and how to speak to each one 47:01: Using AI (Claude and ChatGPT) for hook research and ad variations, not first drafts 49:13: Why Brooklyn does not recommend TikTok ads right now 49:32: Paid podcast cross-promotion as an underused strategy 50:11: Setting up the Meta Pixel (and why you need it) 51:17: Why episode soundbites outperform generic show trailers 52:29: iOS 17, broken attribution, and why UTMs matter 53:47: The scaling rule: do not scale budget until you hit 30 conversions in 7 days 54:37: Why the bottleneck is rarely the ad itself (audit your offer first) 1:00:09: How to structure a direct-to-camera ad video that hooks in the first 3 seconds 1:05:35: Where to find and follow Brooklyn Resources and Links Mentioned in This Episode Join the Newsletter Take the Podcast Growth Quiz Full Show Notes and Blog Post Connect with Kylee Website: podcastmarketinghub.com Podcast: Podcast Growth Tools Instagram: @kyleejchandler Connect with Brooklyn: Instagram: @bizwithbrooklyn Email List Accelerator (50% off with code KYLEE ) Let's Connect! Share your favorite takeaway from this episode or tell me your hot take on virality. DM me on Instagram at @thepodcastmarketinghub . Subscribe and Review If you loved this episode, hit subscribe and leave a review. Reviews help more podcasters like you discover this show.

