
Episode #18
How Collaborative Peacemaking Turns Complaints Into Real Change with Bethany Brady Spalding
Bethany Brady Spalding joins Jen and Patrick to explore the story of the daughters of Zelophehad in Numbers 27 and what it teaches about peaceful problem-solving, courageous advocacy, and collaborative leadership. The conversation centers on how asking a thoughtful question, offering a solution, and trusting the process can help change systems without defaulting to anger or conflict. Timestamps 3:52 - Bethany’s definition of peace: progress toward God’s vision 5:26 - Discovering overlooked stories of women in scripture 8:49 - The daughters of Zelophehad and their inheritance claim 12:45 - Moses as a model for listening and responsive leadership 15:07 - Finding possibility during seasons of change 17:15 - Peaceful advocacy and creating space for women’s voices 20:11 - Why collaboration strengthens peacemaking 23:31 - Building community coalitions through the Health Access Project 26:27 - Diane Nash and the power of a moral question 29:10 - Pairing hard questions with practical possibilities 33:35 - Navigating tension between preserving and changing systems 39:12 - Why Bethany approaches injustice one issue at a time 43:14 - Managing fear when speaking to power 45:00 - Bethany’s pathway to finding peace For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org

