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Episode #155
More Personal Than Finance: Helping Veterans Build Financial Resilience with Dedrick Curtis
Aug 4, 202631 minS6
Financial challenges are rarely just about numbers—they're about life, transitions, and the support people need along the way. In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with AFC®, CFP® Dedrick Curtis to discuss the unique financial realities facing veterans, military families, and caregivers. As Program Manager for the Veterans Benefits Banking Program and founder of Penny Earned Financial, Dedrick shares how behavioral finance, financial counseling, and financial planning work together to help people navigate everything from financial crises to long-term wealth building. Together, they explore the difference between financial counseling and financial planning, why collaboration among financial professionals leads to better client outcomes, and how empathy, trust, and financial education can empower individuals through every stage of their financial journey. Timestamps: 00:00 – Welcome & Guest Introduction 02:26 – What Is the Veterans Benefits Banking Program (VBBP)? 04:53 – The Biggest Financial Challenges Veterans Face Today 06:37 – Why Personal Finance Is More Personal Than Finance 08:25 – Financial Counseling vs. Financial Planning: What's the Difference? 11:50 – Financial Journeys Aren't Always Linear 12:18 – How Financial Counselors and Planners Can Better Collaborate 15:56 – Building Trust with Clients During Financial Stress 19:08 – Serving Veterans Through Specialized Financial Guidance 22:14 – How the Financial Industry Can Better Support Military Families 24:41 – Dedrick's Two Cents: Why More People Should Become Financial Counselors 26:24 – Where to Connect with Dedrick Curtis 27:59 – Key Takeaways: Meeting Clients Where They Are 30:31 – Closing Remarks Shownotes: Learn more about Veterans Banking! Military Financial Advisors Learn more about Penny Earned Financial! Connect with Dedrick! Want to get involved with AFCPE®? Here are a few places to start: Become a Member, Sign up for an Essentials Course , or Get AFC Certified today! Want to support the podcast? We love partnering with organizations that share our mission and values. Download our media kit.
The Power of Saying Yes: Building a Career in Financial Well-Being with Jarod Taylor
Jul 21, 202629 minS6
Career-defining opportunities often begin with a single "yes." In this episode, Jarod Taylor, AFC®, Director of Education and Community Engagement at AFCPE, reflects on his unexpected journey into the financial well-being profession, beginning during the 2008 housing crisis and evolving into a career dedicated to advancing financial education and supporting the next generation of Accredited Financial Counselors®. Jarod discusses the power of community within the profession, the evolving role of financial counselors in an AI-driven landscape, and why human-centered guidance remains essential to achieving lasting financial well-being. He also shares insights for those considering a career in financial counseling and offers a timely reminder that meaningful progress starts with taking the first step. Whether you're an aspiring financial counselor, an established practitioner, or simply passionate about expanding access to financial well-being, this conversation offers thoughtful insights on leadership, lifelong learning, and the impact of saying "yes" to new opportunities. Show Notes: 00:00 Meet Jarod Taylor, AFC® 02:34 Embracing a "Year of Yes" and trying new experiences 03:39 How the 2008 housing crisis launched Jarod's career 05:57 Personal finance lessons that shaped his professional journey 08:59 Eight years supporting AFC candidates and life-changing career stories 11:41 Stepping into the role of Director of Education & Community Engagement 14:45 AI, financial technology, and why human-centered counseling matters 18:53 The growing demand for financial counselors and career opportunities 19:46 Advice for those considering a career in financial counseling 21:10 What a bonsai class taught Jarod about personal finance 23:21 Jarod's 2 Cents Show Note Links: Connect with Jarod! We're celebrating one year of the AFC Learning System and the revamped Money Management Essentials with a special offer! Save 15% on either program with promo code ONEDERFUL15 Want to get involved with AFCPE®? Here are a few places to start: Become a Member, Sign up for an Essentials Course , or Get AFC Certified today! Want to support the podcast? We love partnering with organizations that share our mission and values. Download our media kit.
Do It Scared: Making Financial Guidance More Accessible for Everyone with Cynthia Hudson
Jul 7, 202632 minS6
What if the best financial advice starts by asking one simple question: Why? In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with newly accredited AFC® Cynthia Hudson . Cynthia shares how her unconventional journey—from manufacturing floors to financial counseling—shaped her belief that lasting financial change happens when we address root causes instead of surface-level symptoms. Cynthia explores how disability, trauma, and lived experiences influence financial decision-making, and why creating accessible financial guidance doesn't just benefit people with disabilities—it creates better outcomes for everyone. Through powerful personal stories, she discusses navigating public benefit systems, overcoming self-doubt, and learning that curiosity and compassion are just as important as financial expertise. Whether you're a financial professional, educator, or coach, you'll walk away with practical strategies for meeting clients where they are, asking better questions, and building more inclusive financial conversations. In this episode, you'll learn: Why accessibility benefits every client—not just those with disabilities How to uncover the root causes behind financial challenges The role trauma and lived experiences play in financial decision-making Common pitfalls when advising clients receiving public benefits How curiosity can strengthen trust and improve client outcomes Why Cynthia's personal motto is simple: Do it scared. Show Notes: 00:00 Welcome Cynthia Hudson, AFC® 02:00 From banking and manufacturing to financial counseling 05:00 Why solving the root cause matters more than treating financial symptoms 09:00 Disability, accessibility, and creating better financial outcomes 12:00 When good financial advice can unintentionally cause harm 13:00 Cynthia's personal experience navigating poverty and healthcare benefits 16:00 Practical ways financial professionals can make their services more accessible 19:00 Earning the AFC® without a traditional college path 22:00 Stepping outside your comfort zone and learning to "do it scared" 24:00 Bringing financial education into the workplace 27:00 Cynthia's 2 Cents Show Note Links: Connect with Cynthia on Linkedin! Read about "The Financial Health of People With Disabilities Key Obstacles and Opportunities" from NDI! Want to get involved with AFCPE®? Here are a few places to start: Become a Member, Sign up for an Essentials Course , or Get AFC Certified today! Want to support the podcast? We love partnering with organizations that share our mission and values. Download our media kit.
The Wealth Within: How Self-Worth Shapes Net Worth with Justin Chastain, AFC®️(Re-Run)
Jun 23, 202637 minS6
Editor's note: Real Money, Real Experts is on a mid-summer break. Please enjoy this episode re-run. We will be back with new episodes in July! What does it mean to build true wealth? In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with financial planner Justin Chastain, AFC®️ to explore the connection between self-worth and financial success, the emotional impact of money, and the power of authenticity in both personal and professional growth. Justin shares his personal experiences with grief and how it has shaped his financial philosophy, explaining why wealth is about more than just numbers—it’s about how money influences your life and the lives of those you care about. He also breaks down why patience is essential in building financial security and how leaning into your uniqueness can set you apart in any industry. Whether you're a business owner, an aspiring entrepreneur, or someone looking to improve your financial mindset, this episode is filled with powerful insights on achieving financial freedom and peace of mind. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on redefining wealth, investing in yourself, and staying true to who you are. Show Notes: 01:24 Justin's journey into the financial planning space 04:38 The AFC is they key to lifelong learning 07:33 How creating buckets of value influence our financial decisions 14:21 Why leaning into your uniqueness is your superpower 22:22 The secret behind building wealth for a business 27:41 What to look for in mentors & coaches 32:24 Justin's 2 cents Show Note Links: Connect with Justin on Linkedin! Connect with Justin on Instagram! Want to get involved with AFCPE®? Here are a few places to start: Become a Member, Sign up for an Essentials Course , or Get AFC Certified today! Want to support the podcast? We love partnering with organizations that share our mission and values. Download our media kit.
Money Roots and Financial Wellness: Understanding the Stories Behind Our Financial Decisions with Jack Howard
Jun 9, 202627 minS6
In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , hosts Rachael DeLeon and Brandy Baxter sit down with Jack Howard, Head of Money Wellness at Ally, to discuss the evolving landscape of financial wellness and the critical role that mindset, values, and personal experiences play in shaping financial behaviors. Drawing from both her personal and professional journey, Jack shares how her passion for financial education led her to develop innovative approaches that go beyond traditional financial literacy. The conversation explores the concept of "money roots"—the beliefs, experiences, and narratives that influence our financial decisions—as well as the impact of financial trauma, scarcity, and anxiety on long-term financial well-being. Listeners will gain insight into how understanding their money story, aligning financial decisions with personal values, and approaching money with greater self-awareness can lead to healthier financial habits and a more fulfilling relationship with money. The episode also examines how financial institutions and financial professionals are increasingly embracing a more human-centered approach to financial education and counseling. Show Notes: 02:27 Jack Howard's personal finance journey: From student debt to money wellness leadership 05:11 A day in the life of Ally's Head of Money Wellness 06:40 Why financial success is about more than financial skills 08:54 Overview of Ally's Money Roots program 10:56 Understanding money mindset, money stories, and personal values 12:33 How a trauma-informed approach changes financial conversations 14:14 Addressing shame, judgment, and fear around money 15:07 Common money mindset challenges: scarcity, anxiety, and avoidance 18:13 Breaking down barriers: How financial professionals can build trust 19:06 The power of vulnerability in financial education and counseling 20:22 The future of financial wellness and human-centered banking 21:51 Jack's 2 Cents Show Note Links: Connect with Jack on Instagram! Connect with Ally Bank on Instagram! Connect with Ally Bank on X! Connect with Ally Bank on Linkedin! Want to get involved with AFCPE®? Here are a few places to start: Become a Member, Sign up for an Essentials Course , or Get AFC Certified today! Want to support the podcast? We love partnering with organizations that share our mission and values. Download our media kit.
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