
RealEstateAF Podcast
What Kinda Genius Are You? The 6 Types of Working Genius
Send us Fan Mail Stop Forcing Work That Drains You: Find Your Working Genius What kind of work gives you energy—and what quietly drains your battery? In Real Estate AF Episode 166, Mark Jones sits down with Giancarlo Anduray, a Phoenix Branch Manager and mortgage leader, to break down The 6 Types of Working Genius and apply the framework to real estate, mortgage sales, leadership, hiring, partnerships, marriage and burnout. Giancarlo walks Mark through his assessment in real time. The result explains why Mark naturally builds systems, solves problems and questions inefficiency—and why repetitive support tasks can drain him even when he can do them well. THE SIX TYPES • Wonder — identifies a need for improvement or change • Invention — generates ideas and solutions • Discernment — evaluates whether an idea will work • Galvanizing — creates enthusiasm and action • Enablement — supports implementation • Tenacity — drives work through completion IN THIS EPISODE • Why being different does not mean you are broken • Joy versus short-term motivation • Genius, competency and working frustration • Why talented people can be trapped in the wrong role • Hiring and retaining complementary people • Why one sales activity energizes one person and drains another • Mark’s Invention + Discernment pairing • Reducing conflict at work and at home • Building teams and referral partnerships around natural strengths • A real-estate YouTube success story created by changing the activity—not the person GUEST Giancarlo Anduray Branch Manager | NMLS #1537433 Premier Mortgage Resources, LLC | NMLS #1169 623-552-4191 https://www.pmrloans.com/loan-officer/giancarlo-anduray/ WORKING GENIUS RESOURCE https://www.workinggenius.com/ HOST Mark Jones | NMLS #513437 Host, Real Estate AF Senior Mortgage Loan Officer | Branch Manager iThink Mortgage powered by Premier Mortgage Resources https://MortgageTalkWithMark.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@MortgageTalkwithMark POWERED BY LOANBOT https://myloanbot.ai/ CHAPTERS 00:00 Get Better Every Day — Cold Open 00:32 Welcome to Real Estate AF 01:17 Meet Giancarlo Anduray 02:09 Why Working Genius Matters in 2026 04:22 Joy vs. Happiness 07:19 How Giancarlo Found Working Genius 10:16 Conflict, Expectations & Self-Awareness 13:39 Hiring Complementary People 15:49 Mark Takes the Assessment 16:44 Genius, Competency & Frustration 20:08 Wrong Role—or Wrong Person? 21:54 Wonder 24:31 Invention 26:25 Discernment 30:51 Galvanizing 34:18 Enablement 38:39 Tenacity 41:10 Why Teams Need All Six 43:36 Mark’s Results: Invention + Discernment 48:18 Competency, Burnout & Regulation 51:41 Working Genius at Home 54:42 Frustrations, Adaptations & Leadership 59:52 Mark’s Unique Pairing 1:02:42 Giancarlo’s Pairing & Complementary Teams 1:05:39 Referral Partners & Team Fit 1:06:26 The YouTube Success Story 1:08:54 Applying Working Genius 1:10:34 How to Reach Giancarlo 1:11:30 Final Takeaways 1:15:00 Closing QUESTION FOR YOU Which type sounds most like you: Wonder, Invention, Discernment, Galvanizing, Enablement or Tenacity? Comment below, then send this episode to the teammate, spouse or business partner whose strengths are completely different from yours. IMPORTANT DISCLOSURES This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not legal, tax, financial, psychological, employment, human-resources, real estate or individualized mortgage advice. Working Genius is a workplace-development framework, not a clinical diagnosis or substitute for licensed medical or mental-health advice. The 6 Types of Working Genius®, Working Genius® and related terminology are associated with Patrick Lencioni and The Table Group. This independent podcast discussion is not sponsored by or affiliated with The Table Group unless expressly stated. Nothing presented is a commitment to lend, loan approval, rate quote, rate lock, Loan Estimate, offer of credit or guarantee of terms. Mortgage programs, rates, costs, guidelines and availability may change without notice. All loans are subject to qualification, credit and property approval, verified documentation, underwriting and program availability. Not all applicants or properties will qualify. Guests speak for themselves. Their views do not necessarily represent Mark Jones, iThink Mortgage, Premier Mortgage Resources, LoanBot or any affiliated organization. No compensation is paid or received for referrals, endorsements or podcast appearances unless disclosed. No referral or settlement-service arrangement is intended or offered in violation of RESPA or applicable law. LoanBot is an educational mortgage technology resource. It does not approve loans, make credit or underwriting decisions, guarantee eligibility or replace a licensed mortgage professional. Mark Jones | NMLS #513437 Giancarlo Anduray | NMLS #1537433 Premier Mortgage Resources, LLC | NMLS #1169 Equal Housing Lender #RealEstateAF #WorkingGenius #Leadership Support the show RealEstateAF is Powered by LoanBot.com Host: Mark Jones | Sr. Loan Officer | NMLS# 513437 If you would like to work with Mark on your next home purchase or as a partner visit iThink Mortgage.






