
Episode #2
What the Data Misses About Being Human with Dr. Ram Singh
In this episode, Chris sits down with Dr. Ram Singh, CEO & Founder of EtaKor, to unpack what happens when we start trusting the numbers more than the people behind them. They explore why familiar metrics like ROAS can create false confidence, what gets lost when models treat human behavior as predictable, and why the most important signals are often the ones we dismiss as noise. The conversation moves beyond measurement itself into a bigger question about judgment. As AI gets better at finding patterns, what still requires a human to challenge the answer, add context and recognize when the data is telling only part of the story? Ram also shares why he believes measurement should be a vehicle, not the destination, and why uncertainty, critique and empathy may be some of the most important tools marketers have left. Learn more about EtaKor at etakor.ai . The special humans making this possible Dr. Ram Singh, Guest Chris Marine, Host Pip Kolmar, Producer Caili Elwell (Just a Girl Productions), Producer Cover Art Illustrated by Naretiv Song, “Under The Night Sky” by Kevin Matley The Responsibly Different™ Podcast is inspired by the original producer/host Benn Marine of The Rising Kind. And to David Gogel, Kelly Gadsby, Aidan Clark, Shea Hendricks, and the entire team at Campfire, along with the clients who trust us with their work, thank you. Your partnership makes it possible for us to tell stories like these, and to help tell yours too. Enjoying this content? Text us your thoughts! (if you want a response please include an email address in your text) Learn more about Campfire Consulting Visit the Responsibly Different™ Shop where profits go back to nonprofit organizations. Wear your spark on your sleeve.






