Scaling the Gap

Scaling the Gap is a podcast crafted for the bold, bright, ambitious leaders of today. As an Owner, Entrepreneur, Founder, CEO, President you've already tasted success, and you’re on a quest for more — more impact, more growth, more fulfillment!Our podcast is your companion on this journey, offering a unique recipe of inspiration, introspection and innovation blended with high-impact tactical, practical business advice. We’re here to guide you through the complexities of scaling your business by providing proven tools and dynamic personal growth insights that will help you solidify your vision and transform it into a lasting legacy. Think you'd be a great guest on the show? Apply at https://podcast.legacyleadershipinstitute.com/podcast-guest.

Scaling the Gap is a business podcast hosted by Madeleine MacRae, with 104 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Madeleine MacRae hosts Scaling the Gap, a business show with 104 episodes published.

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  Episode #9

  How to blend elegance, strength, and innovation with Kelley Hoven

  Aug 18, 202629 minS1

  Building something meaningful requires more than a great idea. It takes grit, adaptability, strong people, and the willingness to challenge what worked yesterday. In this episode of Bold Enough, Madeleine MacRae talks with Kelley Hoven, Brand President of Gatsby Glass, about what it really takes to build and scale an emerging franchise brand. Drawing from more than 30 years in sales and marketing and over two decades in franchising, Kelley shares the lessons she’s learned from supporting franchise owners, operating a business herself, and helping build Gatsby Glass from the ground up. They discuss why having the right mindset matters more than having previous industry experience, the importance of hiring and empowering great people, and why Kelley actively welcomes dissenting opinions from her team. She also opens up about Gatsby Glass’s evolution, the hurdles that forced the company to rethink its franchise model, and the strategy behind its continued expansion. The conversation ultimately comes back to a bigger question: What actually defines success? For Kelley, it’s no longer about a title or salary. It’s about waking up with gratitude, doing work she loves, becoming someone others trust, empowering people around her to succeed, and continuing to look for the opportunities ahead. A conversation about leadership, growth, grit, and being bold enough to never become too comfortable with the status quo.

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  Episode #8

  How a backyard conversation sparked a multi-territory business with Adam Berryman

  Aug 13, 202637 minS1

  What happens when the business you built starts demanding a different version of you? On this episode of Bold Enough, Madeleine MacRae sits down with serial entrepreneur Adam Berryman to unpack his journey from corporate burnout to building and growing multiple franchise businesses. Adam shares how a conversation with his neighbor eventually became a business partnership, why franchising gave him the infrastructure he needed to move faster, and what he learned from holding onto the wrong people for too long. They explore one of the hardest parts of growth: letting go of work, roles, and even parts of your identity that helped you reach one level but may prevent you from reaching the next. Adam also shares why the right partner can accelerate growth, why accountability matters, and how he hopes to eventually build businesses that can acquire and operate companies without depending on him. The conversation ultimately comes back to a bigger question: Can you call yourself successful while still wanting more? For Adam, success means gratitude, growth, strong relationships, refusing to settle, building something meaningful, and helping other entrepreneurs rise along the way.

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  Episode #7

  Build success through community and personal growth with Jordan Gobey

  Aug 11, 202644 minS1

  What if growing your business starts with cutting off most of your opportunities? In this episode of Bold Enough, Madeleine MacRae sits down with Jordan Gobey, founder of Growth Community, to explore what it really takes to build a business around focus, expertise, and meaningful impact. Jordan shares how moving away from a “do everything for everyone” agency model and committing to one highly specific niche helped him become a leading expert in building online communities. He opens up about the uncomfortable decisions behind that growth, including turning down revenue, rebuilding after his team changed, and questioning the traditional idea that scaling always means adding more people. The conversation goes deeper than business strategy. Jordan and Madeleine unpack the personal transformation required to become a high-growth entrepreneur, why your business can only grow as far as you do, and how patience, resilience, and identity shape the entrepreneurial journey. They also challenge one of the most common definitions of success: money. Jordan shares why he now considers himself successful even though he believes there is still significant financial growth ahead, and how freedom, family, meaningful work, relationships, impact, and progress have become much more important measures of a life well lived. In this episode, you’ll hear about: • Why specialization can accelerate growth and mastery • The power of community-based businesses • Why deciding also means cutting opportunities off • Becoming the person your future goals require • Navigating failure, uncertainty, and entrepreneurial reinvention • Why personal development can become a business bottleneck • Running your own race instead of comparing yourself to others • Building a definition of success that goes far beyond revenue If you’re building a business while also figuring out who you want to become along the way, this conversation is for you.

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  Episode #6

  The life of a luxury drapery boss: Leading with love with Oana Molodoi

  Aug 10, 202629 minS1

  What does it really take to start over, build a business from scratch, and create a version of success that goes far beyond money? In this episode of Bold Enough, Madeleine MacRae sits down with entrepreneur Oana Molodoi, founder of OM Drapes Design, to talk about courage, family, entrepreneurship, and what happens when you’re willing to leap before you have everything figured out. After moving from Romania to the United States with her husband, two young children, and their dreams packed into eight pieces of luggage, Oana eventually found herself starting an entirely new business during the pandemic. With no previous experience in the window treatment industry, she launched OM Drapes Design and landed a $5,000 client on one of her very first appointments. Five years later, Oana has grown the company rapidly, opened a showroom at the Laguna Design Center, and built a business rooted in relationships, exceptional service, and genuine care for her clients. Oana and Madeleine also get into the side of entrepreneurship that rarely makes the highlight reel: the loneliness of being a solopreneur, the constant tension between business and family, learning to protect time away from work, and redefining what success actually means. For Oana, success isn’t simply revenue or growth. It’s seeing her family thrive, becoming a role model for her children, building meaningful relationships, doing work she loves, and feeling deeply connected to the life she has created. In this conversation, you’ll hear about: • Starting a business with zero industry experience • Turning a pandemic career change into rapid business growth • Oana’s journey from Romania to building a new life in America • Balancing motherhood, marriage, and entrepreneurship • How client relationships created unexpected business opportunities • Why success is about much more than money • Building a business your children can be proud of If you’re building something ambitious while trying to stay connected to the people and values that matter most, this conversation is for you. Subscribe to Bold Enough for candid conversations about leadership, business growth, courage, purpose, and building a legacy that actually matters.

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  Episode #5

  The leadership strategy that changes everything with Matt Kunz

  Aug 4, 202639 minS1

  Growing a business isn't just about finding more opportunities. Sometimes, the real skill is knowing which opportunities to turn down. On this episode of Bold Enough, Madeleine MacRae talks with franchise leader Matt Kunz of Fastest Labs about what it really takes to scale businesses, develop successful franchise owners, and remain disciplined while everything around you is changing. Matt shares lessons from decades in franchising, including his journey from owning Sylvan Learning centers to leading major franchise brands. He explains why structure can create freedom, why franchisee profitability is essential to sustainable growth, and what happens when skilled technicians begin seeing themselves as business owners. He also shares a remarkable story of a painter who transformed a roughly $360,000 business into a seven-figure operation, eventually creating a company that three of his children chose to join. But growth hasn't come without difficult lessons. Matt opens up about unexpected legal challenges, communication mistakes that distracted an entire franchise system for nearly a year, and why leaders have to understand the many different sides of a decision before moving forward. Madeleine and Matt also explore technology's changing role in business, the importance of bringing people along through change, and a different way of defining success: not as a destination or title, but as continuous evolution, contribution, humility, and improvement. Above all, Matt makes the case for one of the hardest disciplines in leadership: You have to say no to good ideas so you can say yes to the great ones. If you're building a business, leading a team, growing a franchise, or trying to figure out where your time and energy will create the greatest impact, this conversation is for you. Follow Matt: Email: matt@fastestlabs.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattkunz Learn more about Fastest Labs: fastestlabs.com fastestlabsfranchise.com Follow Madeleine: Website: https://madeleinemacrae.com/books/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/macraemadeleine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/madeleine.macrae/ Book: The Tenacious Pursuit of Peace: Where to Go When Success Isn’t Enough

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