
Episode #32
Episode 35-Joe Lovano: Still on the Rise
Having a virtual conversation with someone like Joe Lovano invites you to take in more than the words. You find yourself looking around the room with him — the basement, the books, the CDs, maybe a few records, family photos, and a trombone resting naked on top of a bookcase like it had just stepped away from the bandstand. Behind Joe, as we begin talking, there's a music stand with sheet music on it, though I couldn't quite make out the title. Somehow, that feels right. With Joe Lovano, there is always music in view, and always something still being discovered. Grammy Award winning tenor saxophonist and composer Joe Lovano joins Steve Braunginn for an expansive conversation about artistic growth, jazz history and his new ECM recording, Paramount Quartet . After more than 50 years of touring, recording and helping shape modern jazz, Joe Lovano says he still feels that he is "on the rise." The Paramount Quartet, different from any other that he's had, features guitarist Julian Lage, bassist Santi Debriano and drummer Will Calhoun, bringing together four musicians from different generations and musical backgrounds. Lovano explains how an initial trio performance with Debriano and Calhoun inspired him to add Lage, a former student in one of his Berklee College of Music ensembles, and create what he describes as an entirely new musical situation. Lovano takes listeners inside the recording session with ECM producer Manfred Eicher in southern France. He discusses the importance of sequencing, silence, spontaneous orchestration and approaching a composition differently each time it is played. He also contrasts the "nightclub sound" of his Blue Note years with the recital-hall atmosphere he associates with ECM. The conversation reaches back to Lovano's childhood in Cleveland, Ohio and the influence of his father, tenor saxophonist Tony "Big T" Lovano. Joe discusses the scholarship fund he created in his father's honor and reflects on Cleveland's often-overlooked contributions to jazz through artists such as Tadd Dameron, Albert Ayler, Jim Hall and Bill DeArango. Lovano also shares memories of Paul Motian, Elvin Jones, Wayne Shorter, Sonny Rollins and Charlie Haden, whose composition "First Song" opens the new album. Throughout the interview, Lovano returns to a central principle: improvisation is not about displaying everything a musician knows. It is about listening, leaving space, sharing ideas and finding "the melody in your heart and your rhythm spirit." ECM Records generously provided three tracks of music for this podcast. They are in the order played: Fanfare for Unity-4:12, Amsterdam-6:30, and Congregation-5:36. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Subscribe and you become one of the first to receive new episodes, jazz articles, photos and my annual Top 20 jazz recordings.






