
Episode #131
Episode 131 with Carter Shaw
This conversation follows Mike Goldstein and guest Carter Shaw as Carter shares his path through fire service, military service, and the devastating loss of his lieutenant and close friend, Kyle Hines, to suicide. The episode turns a personal tragedy into a practical warning about what to look for, how departments miss signs, and why peer support and therapy cannot be an afterthought. Carter Shaw brings firsthand experience from the fire service, the military, and a deeply personal recovery process. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and episode overview 01:59 Carter Shaw's background and journey into the fire service 04:00 What draws people to the fire service and the mindset required 06:02 The challenge of separating personal life from firefighting 09:01 Signs leading up to the suicide of Carter’s lieutenant 14:06 The traumatic call and its impact on Carter and his team 20:06 The warning signs and mental health struggles of Carter’s lieutenant 23:55 Department response, debriefing, and resources available 30:05 The importance of mental health support and seeking help 39:58 Carter’s personal recovery and ongoing mental health journey 49:55 Resources for first responders and their families 57:11 Final thoughts and message of hope and support Frontline Strong- https://fst5.org/ NextRung- https://www.nextrung.org/ First Responder Center For Excellence- https://firstrespondercenter.org/ The Energy Drink-Use Nozzle Tov for 20% off https://theenergydrink.com/






