
Episode #19
ZERO Wan-Kenobi on Healing, Hip-Hop & Rap America | The Essence of You Podcast
In this episode of The Essence of You Podcast, host Steph Lokelani sits down with Boise hip-hop artist and community builder Cornell Johnson, known on stage as ZERO Wan-Kenobi. Cornell opens up about how he found his voice through music with the Earthlings crew, why he believes Boise's creative community needs to support each other instead of competing, and how writing a song for his mother after her passing in 2020 taught him to "cultivate light out of darkness." The conversation moves into Cornell's work with the Rap America Project, a youth rap camp he's helped grow for three years, teaching kids and adults everything from lyric writing to stage performance to the business side of music. He shares candid, unfiltered stories about a frightening health scare in August 2024 that led to a brain injury diagnosis, his ongoing recovery, and the daily disciplines, including the philosophies of Kaizen (getting 1% better each day) and Mushin (learning to sit with an impulse instead of reacting to it), that have carried him through sobriety and healing. Cornell also reflects on fatherhood, his path from San Bernardino, California to Boise, Idaho, the creation of his ZERO persona, and what it means to build something bigger than himself alongside his bandmates. This is a raw, honest conversation about resilience, community, and choosing hope even when it's hard. Connect with Cornell/ZERO Wan-Kenobi: Spotify, Apple Music, and all streaming platforms as ZERO Wan-Kenobi. Instagram and Facebook: @ZEROWanKenobi. Also find his collective, Earthlings Crew, on all streaming platforms and Instagram @EarthlingsCrew. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61577901365873 https://www.instagram.com/zerowankenobi/ https://open.spotify.com/artist/4YaAeSvsANE45PtM3Lwj6H?si=hbKsYIk5Rv6Ny37kjT5Riw About Cornell Johnson, AKA ZERO Wan-Kenobi: Born in 1986 in San Bernardino, California, Cornell Johnson aka ZERO Wan-Kenobi, is a hip hop artist based out of Boise, Idaho. Influenced by artists such as Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common and many other conscious artists, ZERO takes his artistry into a new dimension. Finding ways to heal with real life stories told in his music which resonate with a refreshingly real honesty. Learning to live and living to learn. Key Takeaways: - Community over competition: Cornell believes Boise's music and hip-hop scene thrived most when artists showed up for each other, and that "repping a city" means investing in that city's community, not just chasing views and likes. - Creating light out of darkness: After losing his mother in 2020, Cornell couldn't write or create for a while. Writing a song for a friend, and, in turn, for his mom, became the moment he realized he could turn his own grief into something that helps other people heal. - The Rap America Project: A youth (and now all-ages) rap camp founded by Brenda Francis that Cornell has helped lead for three years. Participants learn lyric writing, stage performance, beat-making, and the business side of music, and perform an original song by the end of camp. Local sponsors like Idaho Pizza Company and Jersey Mike's fed the kids so no one went without lunch, something Cornell connects directly to his own experience of food insecurity growing up. - A frightening health scare: In August 2024, after quitting alcohol and multiple medications cold turkey, Cornell went into shock and experienced what he describes as "feeling life leaving my body." It marked the start of an ongoing journey toward a brain injury diagnosis and recovery, including a severe concussion in January 2025 and a lapse in insurance/medication access in mid-2025. - Kaizen and Mushin: Two philosophies that have anchored Cornell's recovery. Kaizen means getting just 1% better each day through small, sustainable choices. Mushin (a concept he ties to "no mind") is about noticing the pause before an impulsive action and choosing to sit with discomfort rather than react to it. - The origin of "ZERO": Cornell created his stage persona, ZERO Wan-Kenobi, as an outlet distinct from who he was during his heaviest drinking years. Sharing his vulnerability, fears, and mistakes through music became a way to connect with others who felt broken. - Hope as a discipline, not a feeling: Cornell describes himself as "the hopeless hopeful," someone who chooses hope and shows up for good even when the world feels heavy. His closing message: "You have every reason to be okay." Chapters: 00:00 - Cold open & pre-show banter 01:16 - Welcome & meet Cornell Johnson, aka ZERO Wan-Kenobi 02:45 - How ZERO got into music and joined the Earthlings crew 04:28 - The state of Boise's hip-hop and music community 08:53 - Cultivating light out of darkness: losing his mom in 2020 12:16 - The origin of the Rap America Project rap camp 16:20 - Year two: bringing in the Earthlings crew as teachers 18:43 - Year three: the most prepared and successful camp yet 21:59 - Shoutout to sponsors: Idaho Pizza Company & Jersey Mike's 23:42 - Staying present and finding joy in small moments 28:56 - Confession: hip-hop isn't even his favorite music genre 29:52 - A quick history of hip-hop and why he does it for the culture 31:28 - Opening up about his 2024 brain injury and health scare 39:06 - A second setback: a severe concussion in January 2025 41:58 - Losing insurance, losing medication, and the slow decline 44:19 - Getting back on track and preparing for a doctor's appointment 46:53 - Money, gas prices, and the cost of everyday necessities 53:18 - The Kaizen philosophy: getting 1% better every day 54:49 - Mushin: sitting with the pause before an impulsive action 56:30 - Where his personal story intersects with his work 59:52 - Getting sober in 2019 and how music changed 1:00:54 - Creating the ZERO persona 1:03:01 - How the 2024 breakup and health scare connect 1:03:22 - Making music bigger than himself, with his brothers 1:05:22 - Choosing hope and carrying yourself with love 1:06:18 - Who is ZERO at his core? 1:08:12 - Where to find ZERO Wan-Kenobi and Earthlings Crew 1:09:00 - Closing thoughts






